From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 21 20:51:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99AD7106566B for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 20:51:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjr@cruwe.de) Received: from cruwe.de (cruwe.de [188.40.164.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F0C8FC0A for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 20:51:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruwe.de (unknown [127.0.0.4]) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B876D0CB for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:42:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cruwe.de (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 1D665D0CA; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:42:03 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.cruwe.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from dijkstra.cruwe.de (p57BDF440.dip.t-dialin.net [87.189.244.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ABA74D0C7 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:42:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:41:48 +0200 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120621224148.36ed4c7e@dijkstra.cruwe.de> In-Reply-To: <20120617060135.GA7986@zim.MIT.EDU> References: <20120530204502.5cab974c@desktop.pc> <20120617060135.GA7986@zim.MIT.EDU> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/hjAXrYF=iPT0aT3.B3p0CXA"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV on mail.cruwe.de using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: TeXLive merge into FreeBSD ports tree - FreeBSD project idea X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 20:51:49 -0000 --Sig_/hjAXrYF=iPT0aT3.B3p0CXA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 02:01:35 -0400 David Schultz wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2012, Aldis Berjoza wrote: > > On Sat, 26 May 2012 22:45:37 +1200 > > Sam Lin wrote: > >=20 > > > Hi FreeBSD fellows, > > >=20 > > > Those who are using LaTeX on FreeBSD must know that tetex has been > > > discontinued years ago and that TeXLive is now recommended, > > > however TeXLive has never been merged in the ports tree on > > > FreeBSD and that tetex is still used on FreeBSD ports. Although > > > there have been some "customized" work so that FreeBSD users can > > > install and use TeXLive on FreeBSD machine (for example, > > > http://code.google.com/p/freebsd-texlive/wiki/Installing), this is > > > quite confusing and may still cause conflict on the system side > > > when using or maintaining it. > > >=20 > > > There has also been years of gossips that a Japanese developer > > > Hiroki Sato (hrs@freebsd) has been working on this matter for the > > > last years and therefore the FreeBSD admin panel don't want > > > anyone else to work on this and merge it into the ports tree. > > >=20 > > > I actually contacted Hiroki Sato in the beginning of last year > > > (2011) regarding this, and in his reply he said that there had > > > been several technical issues but most of them had been solved > > > and almost ready to merge into the port tree, and that he was > > > planning to go forward after the 8.2/7.4 releases (one or two > > > weeks later from that time stage) are out. However, more than a > > > year has passed since then and still nothing happened. I tried to > > > contact him several times after that (email, tweet, etc) but > > > haven't heard anything back from him at all. > > >=20 > > > Is TeXLive really going to be merged into the FreeBSD ports tree > > > as Hiroki Sato mentioned previously? Or is this just a myth?? > > >=20 > > > I am now thinking that this should be put into the "FreeBSD > > > Project ideas List" [http://wiki.freebsd.org/IdeasPage]. > > >=20 > > > Regards, > > > Sam > > > > >=20 > > Hey, Sam! > >=20 > > I which TeXLive would be merged in FreeBSD ports. Romain is doing > > great job maintaining it. And it work, And it work now. In fact it > > works for more than a year. >=20 > I have used his TeXLive ports through portshaker for a while. > They work pretty well, but there are some issues due to the fact > that the TeXLive folks have some strange ideas. For one, TeXLive > is split into over 2000 packages, many of which are tiny; the > FreeBSD package system doesn't handle that very well. For another, > TeXLive now has its own (dubious) package manager, tlmgr, which > doesn't play well with other package management systems. >=20 > I'm not a ports committer, but perhaps a good first step to > getting TeXLive working better in FreeBSD is to introduce a > TeTeX vs TeXLive knob in the ports tree so that people don't > wind up accidentally clobber their TeXLive install when TeTex > gets pulled in as a dependency. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" When I was using Linux, my favourite distro was Gentoo. Packages on Gentoo are installed in a fashion very alike to FreeBSD - in fact, Gentoos portage was modeled after FreeBSD ports. In portage, there is a knob package_provided meaning that the package referenced as being provided is installed externally and that portage does not need to resolve said dependancy, as it is already there. I do not know of a similar FreeBSD-construct, but have really wished for something alike to stop the pulling in of the teTeX-tree. 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