From owner-freebsd-security Fri Jun 15 17:38:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB36337B403; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:38:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0564A3E28; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:38:38 -0700 (PDT) To: Brad Huntting Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: misc/28188: Cron is being started to early in /etc/rc (potential security hole) In-Reply-To: <200106152257.f5FMvkC67939@freefall.freebsd.org>; from huntting@glarp.com on "Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:57:46 -0700 (PDT)" Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:38:37 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010616003838.0564A3E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brad Huntting writes: > >Description: > Cron allows users to run jobs at boot time by specifying "@reboot". > While this is a very usefull feature, it is also a potential security > hole if these jobs are started before the kern.securelevel level is > raised. This is a general problem; cron just makes it easy to take advantage of. The problem is that the securelevel is raised as late as possible; it is the last thing to happen in /etc/rc in -stable, and second to last in -current (background fsck's are started after it). The real solution[1] is to move the setting of securelevel up, above the starting of most of the non-essential daemons (e.g., sshd, cron, et al). Anyone from -security care to comment on the feasibility of this? Any reason why it isn't already done like this? OpenBSD sets it quite early, FWIW. Thanks, Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org [1] Actually, the real solution is to axe the entire concept of securelevel. Of course, this won't be done until a suitable replacement is available (e.g., MAC). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message