From owner-freebsd-hackers  Tue Feb  6 18:42:44 1996
Return-Path: owner-hackers
Received: (from root@localhost)
          by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA06597
          for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 6 Feb 1996 18:42:44 -0800 (PST)
Received: from fw.ast.com (fw.ast.com [165.164.6.25])
          by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA06592
          Tue, 6 Feb 1996 18:42:42 -0800 (PST)
Received: from nemesis by fw.ast.com with uucp
	(Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0tjz8g-00087AC; Tue, 6 Feb 96 19:57 CST
Received: by nemesis.lonestar.org (Smail3.1.27.1 #20)
	id m0tjz3q-000CCzC; Tue, 6 Feb 96 19:52 WET
Message-Id: <m0tjz3q-000CCzC@nemesis.lonestar.org>
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 96 19:52 WET
To: hackers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org
From: uhclem@nemesis.lonestar.org (Frank Durda IV)
Sent: Tue Feb  6 1996, 19:52:42 CST
Subject: Re: sup%d is broken - I agree 
Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org
Precedence: bulk

[9]From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
[9]Any suggestions on promoting and facilitating this level of
[9]reliability?  Would an `admin' mailing list for all FreeBSD.ORG
[9]related resources help, or would it merely turn into a source of
[9]unwanted messages for admins who already get too much mail?  It
[9]certainly doesn't seem like such reports should be sent to hackers,
[9]anyway.  There's too much traffic there.

Since your assumption that problems getting into sup.freebsd.org is one
cause of sup2-n being "strange", why not do the following:

1.	Limit sup.freebsd.org to some reduced number of connections (5?).
AND
2.	Have a second sup daemon running on an undisclosed port number 
	on sup.freebsd.org that only the mirrors sites are told about.
	Limit that second daemon to the remainder of ten sessions so that
	the load on sup.freebsd.org won't be any worse than it is now.
AND
3.	Give the systems on the "approved" mirror list the magic port number.
	They will have plenty of incentive to switch to the limited access
	port.  (Change the port number once in a while if you feel the load
	creeping back up.)

This should give the mirrors their own personal door to get data from,
leaves sup.freebsd.org accessible to the truely desperate (or untrusting)
and this should be amazingly easy to set up and see instant benefit.

Then after it has been in place for a few weeks, we can see if the other
sup sites become less strange.  If they don't, there are different
problems to be addressed.

Frank Durda IV <uhclem@nemesis.lonestar.org>|"The Knights who say "LETNi"
or uhclem%nemesis@rwsystr.nkn.net           | demand...  A SEGMENT REGISTER!!!"
	  ^------(this is the fastest route)|"A what?"
or ...letni!rwsys!nemesis!uhclem	    |"LETNi! LETNi! LETNi!"  - 1983