Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 20:23:04 +0100 From: Michael Schuster <michaelsprivate@gmail.com> To: Kyle Evans <kevans@freebsd.org> Cc: Karel Gardas <gardask@gmail.com>, Joseph Mingrone <jrm@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Call for Foundation-supported Project Ideas Message-ID: <CADqw_gJuU6_Wt-GEJduz_Tm0oQg4dDv-5XDz1bsgWqtCmp1R2w@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CACNAnaH4GH_n8GVYN44op-VO7VZ5_GLP8SBj0SfoC5KoBSFDQw@mail.gmail.com> References: <861r36xzpe.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> <61100a28-40ae-4458-d7d5-3bc9b13ba219@gmail.com> <CADqw_gKkii%2BBHk7_jPE0DV5ZdF86ydEq956WDtZOP1N9GBjAPw@mail.gmail.com> <CACNAnaH4GH_n8GVYN44op-VO7VZ5_GLP8SBj0SfoC5KoBSFDQw@mail.gmail.com>
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--0000000000009b757c05d44dde40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Dec 29, 2021, 20:16 Kyle Evans <kevans@freebsd.org> wrote: > On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 1:13 PM Michael Schuster > <michaelsprivate@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Karel, > > > > On Wed, Dec 29, 2021, 19:32 Karel Gardas <gardask@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On 11/23/21 11:41 PM, Joseph Mingrone wrote: > >> > Hello FreeBSD community, > >> > > >> > The Foundation is seeking suggestions for new projects to support. > What > >> > gaps in the Project are not being addressed by the broader community? > >> > >> sorry for being late with those: > >> > >> 1) implement/port beadm equivalent from Solaris/IlumosOS? Make > >> freebsd-update process more reversible by using proper boot environments > >> and using ZFS snapshots. > > > > > > All of these have been in FreeBSD for quite a while - can't give you > dates or specifics (port vs "builtin"), but I've been using them since at > least 13. > > > > Specifically, bectl(8)[0] has been in and mostly usable since 12.0, > bectl behaves slightly differently from beadm, which can be confusing when you're used to beadm. I don't have the specifics handy (although I was part of an email thread about this), but decided to stick with beadm as it suits my needs better. and more recently freebsd-update will use it to create a boot > environment if the system can cope with that (i.e.: `bectl check` is > happy/convinced that it's currently booted into a BE layout that it > recognizes). > > [0] > https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=bectl&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+13.0-RELEASE+and+Ports&arch=default&format=html > > --0000000000009b757c05d44dde40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas= s=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 29, 2021, 20:16 Kyle Evans <<a href=3D"mail= to:kevans@freebsd.org">kevans@freebsd.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquo= te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so= lid;padding-left:1ex">On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 1:13 PM Michael Schuster<br> <<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsprivate@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"n= oreferrer">michaelsprivate@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> ><br> > Hi Karel,<br> ><br> > On Wed, Dec 29, 2021, 19:32 Karel Gardas <<a href=3D"mailto:gardask= @gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">gardask@gmail.com</a>> = wrote:<br> >><br> >><br> >><br> >> On 11/23/21 11:41 PM, Joseph Mingrone wrote:<br> >> > Hello FreeBSD community,<br> >> ><br> >> > The Foundation is seeking suggestions for new projects to sup= port.=C2=A0 What<br> >> > gaps in the Project are not being addressed by the broader co= mmunity?<br> >><br> >> sorry for being late with those:<br> >><br> >> 1) implement/port beadm equivalent from Solaris/IlumosOS? Make<br> >> freebsd-update process more reversible by using proper boot enviro= nments<br> >> and using ZFS snapshots.<br> ><br> ><br> > All of these have been in FreeBSD for quite a while - can't give y= ou dates or specifics (port vs "builtin"), but I've been usin= g them since at least 13.<br> ><br> <br> Specifically, bectl(8)[0] has been in and mostly usable since 12.0,<br></bl= ockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">bectl be= haves slightly differently from beadm, which can be confusing when you'= re used to beadm.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">I don't have the specifi= cs handy (although I was part of an email thread about this), but decided t= o stick with beadm as it suits my needs better.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto= "><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gma= il_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord= er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> and more recently freebsd-update will use it to create a boot<br> environment if the system can cope with that (i.e.: `bectl check` is<br> happy/convinced that it's currently booted into a BE layout that it<br> recognizes).<br> <br> [0] <a href=3D"https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dbectl&apropo= s=3D0&sektion=3D0&manpath=3DFreeBSD+13.0-RELEASE+and+Ports&arch= =3Ddefault&format=3Dhtml" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blan= k">https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dbectl&apropos=3D0&se= ktion=3D0&manpath=3DFreeBSD+13.0-RELEASE+and+Ports&arch=3Ddefault&a= mp;format=3Dhtml</a><br> <br> </blockquote></div></div></div> --0000000000009b757c05d44dde40--
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