From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 14 15:53:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96984E64; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 15:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22b.google.com (mail-ie0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB7E3DB; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 15:53:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f171.google.com with SMTP id e14so4963060iej.2 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 08:53:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=QVz0sLjFxVr5CRAkLAvgVSpFsn7WfVIkm1lqrVKRjyQ=; b=p4qoapX3FlDQhtQEB6/pKURj4O/u0svwtyLzp/Bf+OmSNYiiabVRmeM/i3UUUL+EzN PzS10xaeMXrtOgtSrgBjk9UobXMx8EGoe1cLai8Xh+qAY5oXaNP079hkH/UFejvfDTrx 4AfEbz0CUX9kyCr9ZXzh6xVmt02VCFzOWeIXMw479wRd7UmLvb3Zom2/PFDtTrcnhgaV ENzeJfwCk3Bd5QwzI/0o6wqIcK+L3Asn//flLHF12oUP5pSLaErL4Rd2+p8vi6rGamwu TdBLohoPKglup8mOPpeHcgW2bVTIvhF4uLk8JvieGajtFZpLhTXXIN2gbJmA+LOTBDCq tinw== X-Received: by 10.50.197.170 with SMTP id iv10mr3254220igc.62.1365954785041; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 08:53:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: utisoft@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.58.52 with HTTP; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 08:52:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20130411201805.GD76816@FreeBSD.org> <7D8ACD5C-821D-4505-82E4-02267A7BA4F8@FreeBSD.org> <96D56EAE-E797-429E-AEC9-42B19B048CCC@FreeBSD.org> <6DEDD3EA-45C1-4549-AA13-5E4F6674BE3E@samsco.org> <2D0B66DB-E232-4F34-9D01-57DF226B9BAA@FreeBSD.org> <2DA4A561-3304-432D-B5D1-7053A27E758F@yahoo.com> From: Chris Rees Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 16:52:34 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: VrhDYlCmWDVtZ2W7G8E7ed42Ibw Message-ID: Subject: Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "net@freebsd.org" , Scott Long , Rui Paulo , "current@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 15:53:05 -0000 On 14 April 2013 16:48, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Chris Rees wrote: > >> On 14 April 2013 01:41, Rui Paulo wrote: >>> >>> 2013/04/13 16:01?Scott Long ??????: >>> >>> >>>> Maybe something else, but whatever it is, it should be done. If you and >>>> Gleb don't want to do this, I will. >>> >>> >>> I already started writing a guide. See here for a very incomplete >>> version: >>> >>> http://people.freebsd.org/~rpaulo/ipf-deprecation/article.html >> >> >> If you're really serious about deprecating ipf, we absolutely have to >> remove instructions for it from the Handbook as soon as possible; >> every time a new user comes across instructions you're going to have >> yet another annoyed party. >> >> http://www.bayofrum.net/~crees/patches/remove-ipf.diff > > > This should probably be done like we did for CVS for ports. Mark it as > deprecated, then remove the Handbook section once the code is removed. > > Is it possible to move ipfilter into a port? There isn't really a point in moving it to a port, because it still needs the same level of commitment to make it work; many kernel/net changes cause it to break, and Rui has already pointed out that no-one knows if it even works at all on HEAD. Moving kernel stuff like this to ports isn't really an option :/ Chris