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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 10:39:17 -0800
From: Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
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Subject: Re: FreeBSD is becoming ... by, and for, FreeBSD developers
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:11:02 +0200
Andriy Gapon <avg@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> on 18/01/2012 12:47 Poul-Henning Kamp said the following:
> > FreeBSD has _always_ been a project by the community, for the
> > community and there is no way it can be any other way.
> Well, reading this http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD-ng it seems that
> in the past there was a "for users" component related to FreeBSD
> release process.

There were developers in the community for whom seeing people using
their code was the priority goal. This led to them building a system
"for users". I see a lot of them working on OSX these days - it's
clearly the most popular BSD-based OS. And Apple has better stock
options that the FreeBSD Foundation.

Not that the RE's aren't doing good work now. It's just that the goals
seemed to have changed priority, resulting in reactions like this
thread.

	<mike