From owner-freebsd-current Wed Dec 8 11:28:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from tank.skynet.be (tank.skynet.be [195.238.2.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 436C3157F8; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 11:24:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@foxbert.skynet.be) Received: from foxbert.skynet.be (foxbert.skynet.be [195.238.1.45]) by tank.skynet.be (8.9.3/odie-relay-v1.0) with ESMTP id UAA17699; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 20:24:00 +0100 (MET) Received: (from root@localhost) by foxbert.skynet.be (8.9.1/jovi-pop-2.1) id UAA11547; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 20:23:59 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@foxbert.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199912081856.KAA06231@mass.cdrom.com> References: <199912081856.KAA06231@mass.cdrom.com> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 20:23:24 +0100 To: Mike Smith , Julian Elischer From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired! Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:56 AM -0800 1999/12/8, Mike Smith wrote: >=20 The right attitude to be taking now is "here is where the ata drivers >=20 still fall down" or "here are patches to them to replace this >=20 functionality". Think about the longer-term goals here folks. I understand where Julian is coming from. In fact, my initial=20 reaction was the same. However, I have reluctantly been converted to=20 be in agreement with Mike and S=F8ren (among others). This is -CURRENT. It pains me to say it, but anyone trying to=20 run anything "useful" on -CURRENT gets what they deserve. This is=20 the only place where we can make clean breaks with the past, and as=20 painful as that can be, we simply have to do that occasionally. I'm sure this isn't necessary amongst this group of people, but=20 I'll quote from =20 anyway: >> 18.1.1. What is FreeBSD-current? [ ... deletia ... ] >>=20 While many of us >> compile almost daily from FreeBSD-current sources, there are >> periods of time when the sources are literally un-compilable. --=20 =20 These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy =20 ____________________________________________________________________ |o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, News & FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ =20 Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. =20 Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message