From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Mar 4 4:35:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.cz (diana.mobil.cz [194.228.200.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE1837B400 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 04:35:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ester.mobil.cz (ester.mobil.cz [194.213.62.23]) by mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g24CZO130269 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 13:35:24 +0100 Received: from roman.mobil.cz ([10.2.0.89]) by ester.mobil.cz (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.7) with ESMTP id 2002030413313055:40 ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 13:31:30 +0100 Received: (from roman@localhost) by roman.mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g24CmMS29569 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 13:48:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from neuhauser@mobil.cz) X-Authentication-Warning: roman.mobil.cz: roman set sender to neuhauser@mobil.cz using -f Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 13:48:22 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I bought your system and am not so happy! Message-ID: <20020304124822.GU351@roman.mobil.cz> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20020304181911.C483_osiris.sigterm.com@ns.sol.net> <005201c1c34f$f6b0f730$6f830acf_gdennyj@ns.sol.net> <200203041132.g24BW5g50751@sheol.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200203041132.g24BW5g50751@sheol.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 03/04/2002 01:31:30 PM, Serialize by Router on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 03/04/2002 01:31:36 PM, Serialize complete at 03/04/2002 01:31:36 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 05:32:05 -0600 (CST) > From: hawkeyd@visi.com (D J Hawkey Jr) > Subject: Re: I bought your system and am not so happy! > To: denny@jodeit.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > In article <005201c1c34f$f6b0f730$6f830acf_gdennyj@ns.sol.net>, > denny@jodeit.com writes: > > It's gonna be a shock to you, but you need a clue or 2 before installing > > FreeBSD. > > > > If you went out and bought install CD's to get started, you missed the boat > > and should have researched on the web first. > > FreeBSD's install (and terminology thereof) is different enough from RedHat's > where I could see an RH Linux user becoming confused during the install. > RH's default desktop install does indeed put a more ready-to-rock environment > on the destination disk - too much so, IMHO, but I prefer FreeBSD's lean-and- > mean approach. It all depends on one's POV. I certainly found it hilarious that RH6 enabled (or at least did so on one machine I saw) virtually *everything* by default. NFS client, NFS server, Samba, Apache... You name it. > FreeBSD's sysinstall has been a point of "controversy", and, IIRC, is > undergoing some sort of overhaul, though I find it quite acceptable, myself. Yup. The fact that you need to be really careful whether you press space or enter in (almost) any one dialog through the install is quite... sad. ISTR that the reason for the rewrite wasn't the visual aspect of the interface: I for one find it nicer than other installers I've seen, including all the windows installers, YaST2, and others. The reason was that sysinstall isn't very modular, and behavioral changes require hacks. That said, I've read about grieves the dialog library used in sysinstall gives the programmers... I just hope future versions of FreeBSD won't require any mouse clicks to install. Ability to "script", "record" and "replay" installs would be great, too. -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 1:38PM up 4 days, 14:46, 18 users, load averages: 0.04, 0.05, 0.01 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message