From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 8 19:33:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from berlin.atlantic.net (berlin.atlantic.net [209.208.0.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F66837B720 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:33:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bobj@atlantic.net) Received: from mail.atlantic.net (IDENT:root@mail.atlantic.net [209.208.0.71]) by berlin.atlantic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA10579; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 22:36:37 -0500 Received: from bsd.cisi.com (ocalflifanb-as-1-r1-ip-94.atlantic.net [209.208.28.94]) by mail.atlantic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA15642; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 22:33:35 -0500 Received: from nancy.cisi.com (nancy.cisi.com [192.168.0.131]) by bsd.cisi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA57081; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 22:33:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bobj@atlantic.net) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000308223247.009e9430@rio.atlantic.net> X-Sender: bobj@rio.atlantic.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 22:32:47 -0500 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: Bob Johnson Subject: Re: Is the PAO install always this hard? Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <23541.952546874@zippy.cdrom.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! For what it's worth, I have installed PAO on my laptop twice, and both times required doing two installs. Once to install FreeBSD, and again to add PAO. I did it last week with 3.4R, and once early last fall, either 3.2R or 3.3R. It doesn't require two complete installs, but you have to get the distributions from two different FTP sites. Since the original PAO instructions I read last year said this is how it was done, I assumed that was how it was still supposed to be working. I did wonder why the PAO stuff couldn't be on the main FreeBSD server so you could pick up the whole thing at once (with less confusion), but I figured it would get ironed out when PAO was integrated with the mainstream release. I think perhaps what is missing right now is either putting a copy of PAO on the main FreeBSD site and its mirrors, or some instructions that clearly say you have to do a regular install first, then go to the PAO site and install the PAO distribution. I vote for adding PAO to the main FreeBSD sites so you can do the install the way the install disk implies it will work. Does my vote count for anything when you're the one that has to do the work? The good news is that the PAO install floppy (from the PAO site) recognizes a wide variety of PCMCIA ethernet cards, so the install process should go pretty smoothly for most people once they know where to get the various pieces from. To summarize, here's what worked for me: 1) go to http://www.jp.FreeBSD.org/PAO/ and get the most appropriate PAO install floppy. 2) Start a "Beginner" installation using a mainstream FreeBSD site as the distribution source. It will give you an error message complaining that it couldn't find the PAO distributions, and offer the chance to try again. 3) Change the distribution source to the PAO ftp site, and let it install the PAO distributions. 4) Complete the installation as usual. Those instructions are for 3.x releases. By the way (completely off topic now) I tried Corel Linux yesterday, and used FreeBSD with the KDE desktop as a workstation for the first time today. FreeBSD/KDE is "ready for prime time". Corel Linux isn't. - Bob +-------------------------------------------------------- | Bob Johnson | bobj@atlantic.net +-------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message