From owner-freebsd-security Sun Sep 9 14:16: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from C-Tower.Area51.DK (c-tower.area51.dk [62.243.200.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FEEB37B401 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 14:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 61798 invoked by uid 1007); 9 Sep 2001 21:16:23 -0000 Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 22:16:23 +0100 From: Alex Holst To: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Re[2]: Kernel-loadable Root Kits Message-ID: <20010909221623.A58504@area51.dk> Mail-Followup-To: Alex Holst , freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG References: <151193622478.20010909151642@buz.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from deepak@ai.net on Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 03:03:22PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoting Deepak Jain (deepak@ai.net): > The most secure server in the world is one that is unplugged from everything > and locked in a closet somewhere. Seeing as how "availability" is considered part of security, this is a load of [snip] which gives non-security type people the wrong view of what security is. Besides, in the situation where a server is locked in a closet, all you have to do it call up the receptionist and in an urgent voice tell her to plug the machine back in and flick the powerswitch. -- I prefer the dark of the night, after midnight and before four-thirty, when it's more bare, more hollow. http://a.area51.dk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message