From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 06:42:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41801065674 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 06:42:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED278FC18 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 06:42:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (pD9E2CD22.dip.t-dialin.net [217.226.205.34]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB4FF2E10F; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 07:25:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34286577CB; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 07:25:13 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=Leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1231223113; bh=nZB6fO2xn0LNQ15k+9O/AR5hjxTyc6fDo n9JBMdU+Lw=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=KR4XRQ6b5Rx3y5vvvuBaeLsrx9yRf9PpaRhC+LyuC2Hy9jjFDaVuCy0RIr2QbdhLU f4qr2V8nkOde/opie2EL0jrUoZZjb8uaJLdHHykp61xaZfeTr9sAcnZz8REx4O6KRpy 9kEt1nqxwFzpRG2IU6+TBVg9aCfFN/r8Wi6/vm1ezQT2pHo6k2+M36XPP4m5O7aukk+ 5WiKqFAxrMwY5AIqkmffBVK6tCUixQ3gOOEm2mlovkyEoTD19Ku7C82O1DJF/zoqVun GTD7y0hQDxb84lC8NPjNck9hudGeg/uNr7mL4/JbT+xEd09W4Np28yXXQmb7xmlQH7C Ej/gNBu2A== Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.14.3/8.13.8/Submit) id n066PC37068610; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 07:25:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from pslux.cec.eu.int (pslux.cec.eu.int [158.169.9.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:25:11 +0100 Message-ID: <20090106072511.16463froljaeoy80@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:25:11 +0100 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Alexander Motin References: <49628626.40202@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <49628626.40202@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) / FreeBSD-8.0 X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: AB4FF2E10F.77E28 X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, ORDB-RBL, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-14.823, required 6, BAYES_00 -15.00, DKIM_SIGNED 0.00, DKIM_VERIFIED -0.00, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10, TW_SN 0.08) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: snd_hda MFC plan X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:42:01 -0000 Quoting Alexander Motin (from Tue, 06 Jan 2009 =20 00:13:58 +0200): > On most systems having several devices is not a problem, as mostly =20 > used analog connectors are usually detected first. But on some =20 > systems (for example, having separate HDMI ports on video cards, =20 > which are now also supported and often detected first), user may be =20 > required to explicitly configure his audio applications or by using =20 > hw.snd.default_unit sysctl globally specify default audio device he =20 > wants to use. This moment explicitly specified in updated man page =20 > and I am going to specify it in UPDATING. Is there a way to move those HDMI ports to the end (either in pcmX or =20 in the probing) somehow? If yes, it would be more POLA to do this =20 instead of requiring the users to do something. And related: do all detected analog ports appear in a sensible order? =20 What I mean is again POLA related. If someone updates from 7.1 to 7.2, =20 will he be required to do something to get sound out of the same =20 connector as before when connecting to the default audio device? If =20 not, is it possible for you to introduce some corresponding sorting =20 before MFCing? Bye, Alexander. --=20 The more data I punch in this card, the lighter it becomes, and the lower the mailing cost. =09=09-- Stan Kelly-Bootle, "The Devil's DP Dictionary" http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137