From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 15 17:07:40 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B603B64A97E for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 17:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-io1-xd32.google.com (mail-io1-xd32.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d32]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GQgmC2K4jz4nFB for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 17:07:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: by mail-io1-xd32.google.com with SMTP id l18so7296845iow.4 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 10:07:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsd.com.br; s=capeta; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=dhmU4DZ6Et+lxKfPR3qj75BX01EnnW324dJV0XDTiwc=; b=MuDcftyhr/ZziJEe123cnKNymiWueliV2HuKfsMv3WYSawFy06X4zXCYERtJvTGqOj G0dAPxfYYq9jabvIZBYVqAMyKtqtKoryiUw6oIIX4Ju1lZ/VJ2/9XsHWYkEhji0AumYo pdENBibpM5JB3Klv3zUY3WCBRXhrueYTCUuRE= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=dhmU4DZ6Et+lxKfPR3qj75BX01EnnW324dJV0XDTiwc=; b=GGI8GKhtDeM24WbquL1bAayvEnBjF6sXnxLVtXWyT/5jXvvQuekNbJtkHRL1cOHUo6 Qtjg8dyr0PuMk/DAnfuh5KW8DdO1bFjAXx+teoK6hoLxwzBXJOpGKHwHo3r7PbEhV87H DS3FBmh9JaSHBkgJ+ZPsQTYBH2hDH7Y2xVX/isf6/vwp3CYa2rAR57fHYP7OuFqRU0xU ni3OjO1N1O+9BucixdjlKqUXaS7GSVFqqRSZgIKj6KQPQNMxUcBoZ57EpiQT6gcwkMq6 3uLVjx0bUC5Iiqzt5DlOKP707NgEYDwKsMS8wQ4VtEKyPnBGQhv6qF+Vnv/Ma46YNnMU licA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531/O0nB6V+5LvM3Key5YciKoHSjL1MJf0lboSS/+94fgAL4iu4R mRZ+7Q+TbXRIvrcj3P4knxyqIwOQ6SOXmbamWEZZU4pUVlPgrg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyvcp87SfL4Evk+y7SS0GoyPtrykyiRilNl3CiZ2ho1jPK+0SEk0SyTn5SRqQlgxn3vPy5ERnLT7FL0gWTwqTY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6638:2111:: with SMTP id n17mr4886083jaj.76.1626368857631; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 10:07:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5b18f5de-7aae-a226-88cd-a210507d5c5@gmail.com> <72194e9f-261c-c3da-996-f8e1bcad2164@gmail.com> <20210715063116.85e42de5c276f40c8920ee2c@sohara.org> <20210715105229.50fee7b3@archlinux> <23e852c3-b9f4-3e7a-777c-50ff3c222f16@gmail.com> <20210715112546.61525c25b44bb93c10b87f21@sohara.org> <5d8e1ddf-92d1-48a6-0b76-04e2a81077f7@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20210715163245.658c4b29@gumby.homeunix.com> <65457cf2-37d2-5050-fa59-8926ea240baa@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20210715182442.722507f6@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20210715182442.722507f6@archlinux> From: Mario Lobo Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 14:07:25 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What the hell starts pulseaudio?! To: freebsd-questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GQgmC2K4jz4nFB X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsd.com.br header.s=capeta header.b=MuDcftyh; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of lobo@bsd.com.br designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d32 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=lobo@bsd.com.br X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsd.com.br:s=capeta]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsd.com.br]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::d32:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsd.com.br:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::d32:from]; SUBJECT_ENDS_EXCLAIM(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::d32:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; SUBJECT_HAS_QUESTION(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 17:07:40 -0000 On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 13:25 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 10:36:13 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > >Thanks for mentioning that. I did start using claws-mail, but after > >some short time of using it I switched back to thunderbird, just > >forgot what was the reason. I will need to revisit claws mail, I > >figure. > > Advantage: GTK3 branch was official released a few days ago, I'm > already using it for more than 6 month (on Linux). Not that I'm in > favour of GTK3, it's just that GTK2 is discontinued. > > Disadvantage and most likely the reason for you to drop Claws: It's > _not_ multi-threaded and incredible slow. While you wait that something > incredible slow does finish, you can't do something else. > Another disadvantage is that claws-mail is now having serious problems to authenticate to gmail IMAP, which never happened before.