From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 6 22:20:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yez.hyperreal.org (dsl027-182-008.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.27.182.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B0B437B408 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:20:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@collab.net) Received: (qmail 2464 invoked by uid 1000); 7 Jun 2001 05:21:29 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jun 2001 05:21:29 -0000 Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:21:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Behlendorf X-X-Sender: To: Gordon Tetlow Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , Subject: Re: IPFilter licence update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Gordon Tetlow wrote: > I removed Darren from the CC list as I don't think he really needs to be > in on this discussion.... > > On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > > > While meaning no disrespect to Darren with this followup. What good does a > > signed memorandum with FreeBSD do if I decide at some point (which I won't) > > to take the FreeBSD source and branch it into my own variant? This is how > > the various BSDs came about in the first place. It does seem rather > > restrictive of a license for the FreeBSD core system. Why can't this be > > released under the BSD license? > > > It's not released under a BSD license because he doesn't want to. His > perogative. We have some much more restrictive licenses (ie GPL) in the > base OS and no one complains about them. > Wait, I'm confused. I thought the resolution was that the ipfilter code that was a part of FreeBSD was under the standard BSD license like everything else under /usr/src (aside from /usr/src/gnu), and that Darren's no-redistribution-of-modifications clause applied to non-"release" versions of the software, i.e. beta releases, etc, the implication being that once released, it'd be put under a BSD license and then integrated into FreeBSD. Is that not the case? If not, that's pretty bad - it means that you can't really say anymore that 'FreeBSD is under the BSD license, aside from some GNU bits', you have to say 'FreeBSD is under a multitude of licenses, some of them not open source, please examine all source code files for potential licenses before redistributing'. That would suck. Frankly, Darren's "no modified versions may be redistributed" "clarification" is much worse than even the GPL. But I'll avoid recrossing well-covered ground. Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message