From owner-freebsd-current Tue Dec 29 02:20:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA15240 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 02:20:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA15220 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 02:20:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id LAA13153 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:20:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA26748; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:14:21 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from j) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:14:21 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199812291014.LAA26748@uriah.heep.sax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.8 Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) Organization: Private BSD site, Dresden X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E References: <13960.20551.6406.312531@katiska.clinet.fi> <199812290358.TAA15263@dingo.cdrom.com> From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) Subject: Re: wanton Atticizing is bad X-Original-Newsgroups: local.freebsd.current To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith wrote: (pcvt) >> This still does not answer the issue. Why it has to be removed ? > > The author has abandoned it, and nobody else serious has stepped > forward to maintain it. Sorry, but that's completely untrue. The author has never abandoned it. Just the opposite, since the author joined the committer's crew a few days ago, he even offered to maintain it himself now for the time being. I've been in charge of maintenance until now, and pending one still unanswered mostly cosmetic fix submitted by Bruce, and pending an overdue unifdef sweep, you can follow the commitlogs and see that pcvt actually _is_ maintained. However, the last known (to me, at least) bugs have already been fixed somewhere in 1996. It's just that it has a stable feature set, but that shouldn't be confused with total lack of maintenance. Sure, the days of pcvt are counted. But more about this can be read in another thread. > We need to have a single console driver, and syscons is it. While it will probably keep the name `syscons', it can't and won't be the current syscons (*). Again, see another thread in this mailinglist. (*) I have mentioned it more than once that the design of the current syscons cannot house a decent VT220 emulation, since 256 characters are way too few for this. What pcvt did is trading colors (only 8 instead of 16) for character cells (512 instead of 256). This suffices mostly, albeit i think it's still not enough for something like supporting Cyrillic charactersets simultaneously with ISO8859-1. The latter probably requires to keep the graphics card in graphics mode all the time. That's a little slower, but given the today's graphics cards probably doable (unlike 6 years ago). Hopefully the new console driver that's currently in its design stage might allow for all this. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message