From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 25 22:54:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA26961 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 25 May 1998 22:54:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from postoffice.prismnet.com (postoffice.prismnet.com [205.166.246.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA26956 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 22:54:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@prismnet.com) Received: from darkstar.prismnet.com (darkstar.prismnet.com [209.198.133.2]) by postoffice.prismnet.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA25455 for ; Tue, 26 May 1998 00:54:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001f01bd886a$6a17d6a0$0285c6d1@darkstar.prismnet.com> Reply-To: "Greg Stringfellow" From: "Greg Stringfellow" To: Subject: Re: SMTP Relay probing - Should I follow up - advice? Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 00:52:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Blaine, I do believe you want to take your frustrations out on the wrong people. Not all of UUNETs customers are "fu*&ing bandwidth thieves and miscreants". So why should we punish them? Another way of looking at it is this, it looks like the account your emailing from goes through a major backbone. Do you think they don't house a few spammers? Should we all prevent you from emailing everyone else because of it? Think about how smart that is. I agree we should do something. But I think we all need to step back and take a look at how we approach it. I guess I could take this conversation further but I don't believe it relates to FreeBSD or how FreeBSD relates to an ISP. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Blaine Minazzi To: Shaun Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Monday, May 25, 1998 11:34 PM Subject: Re: SMTP Relay probing - Should I follow up - advice? >Shaun wrote: > >> Oh, that's brilliant...Are you going to take up a collection for all >> us legit customers so we can switch and pay the startup fees for >> some other Tier 1 provider?? > >Oh, I see... You CHOOSE to do business with companies that support these >fu*&ing bandwidth thieves and miscreants.... > >ALTER.NET - - the drop in replacement for AGIS. > > >Bkm > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message