From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jun 20 23:59: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from warez.scriptkiddie.org (uswest-dsl-142-38.cortland.com [209.162.142.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE79437B403 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 23:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.69.11] (unknown [192.168.69.11]) by warez.scriptkiddie.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1606662D1A; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 23:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 00:04:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Lamont Granquist To: Terry Lambert Cc: Jason Andresen , "Brandon D. Valentine" , Darren Pilgrim , Evan Dower , Subject: Re: Cyrus vs. UW IMAP (was: Re: I Volunteer) In-Reply-To: <3D129E79.A32431EB@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <20020621000043.H567-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: > Lamont Granquist wrote: > > Cyrus imapd is a real pain in the ass to administer local user accounts > > with though. > > You mean that it doesn't integrate well with the UNIX credentials > system. THe issue here is that Cyrus needs to be able to hook > create/delete actions on accounts, and UNIX fails to provide a > means of doing this. I look at this as a UNIX deficiency. You > can actually get around it by using "pw" and utilizing the script > hooks it has. Well, that's trying to place blame on how it should get fixed. From my perspective I don't care, it is just more difficult to use. > The easiest real fix for this would be to write a PAM module to > cause the UNIX users to authenticate against the Cyrus database. Creating mailboxes is also a PITA, I like procmail to be able to do this and not have a 2nd configuration step... > > The cyradm program is extremely deficient. > > Not a big issue, I think. Writing scripts to encapsulate it and > be "less deficient" is really very trivial. Yeah, these days I don't have that much time to script... If I did have more scripting time, I'd be fixing more shit at work to help me sleep through the night when I'm on call... > > Its great if you > > want to offer people imap e-mail without offering them shell access. For > > local access, though, there's a higher administrative overhead. I'm back > > to using the UW imapd even though I know it is a poorer codebase... > > I recommend you do not publicize the IP addresses of the servers, > if they are net accessible outside your organization. 8-). Nope. Well protected by firewall in one case, and I'll be updating my ipf rules when I convert scriptkiddie... I never use remote IMAP anyways... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message