From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Dec 14 13:12: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A0137B419; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:12:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19617; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 14:11:47 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011214140047.023d1800@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 14:11:44 -0700 To: Carl Schmidt From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: IBM suing (was: RMS Suing was [SUGGESTION] - JFS for FreeBSD) Cc: Hiten Pandya , Brad Knowles , chat@FreeBSD.ORG, phk@FreeBSD.ORG, grog@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20011214194909.GA2943@Carbon.SlackerBSD.ORG> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011214123703.02ad7290@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20011214123703.02ad7290@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:49 PM 12/14/2001, carl@slackerbsd.org wrote: >This has been beat to death over and over but people still do not understand >that softupdates will not minimize data loss. It guarantees metadata to be >written, not `normal' data. Actually, what it attempts to gurantee is consistency of metatata. This is an important FOUNDATION for a journaling file system, which will then have an easier time keeping the DATA consistent. The two can work hand in hand. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message