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Date:      Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:27:11 +0100
From:      "Julian Stacey" <jhs@berklix.org>
To:        freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Can FreeBSD Grow Large?
Message-ID:  <200502152327.j1FNRBQL041297@fire.jhs.private>

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> From: Shawn Harrison <harrison@tbc.net>
> Message-id: <421258EE.2000605@tbc.net>

> only those who are trusted hackers (committers) have any structural
> voice whatsoever in the community.

Presumably that includes some who hold commit privs mainly for the
freebsd.org web site.  

It's tedious though, how much irrelevant hot air has been dumped
onto advocacy@ Re. logo preferences, considering we won't get to vote !
  - Apparently commiters will vote;  Presumably advocacy@ will not.
  - Commiters are on the commit list, & current@, 
    I guess just a low percentage of advocacy@ are committers.
  - Most commiters will probably ignore advocacy@ when they vote.
Deduction: people with logo preferences should contact commiters
who will vote, not this advocacy@ list that likely includes few voters.

Readers of advocacy@ have limited choices:
  - Face reality, realise logo preference on advocacy@ is hot air, Or ...
  - Do a load of send-pr's & be individually invited to be a commiter to
    src/ ports/ doc/ or www/ who can vote, Or ...
  - Agitate for votes for advocacy@ members (little chance I guess), Or ...
  - Wait for commiters (who will ignore advocacy@) to choose Their logo,
    then advocacy@ individuals can ignore or include logo on non
    freebsd.org controlled BSD advocacy sites & events that advocacy@
    readers organise.

Best skip the irrelevant logo debates where our views are Not wanted.
Best be more constructive, & discuss what we Can do: eg collecting
content for web sites to promote business adopting BSD etc.  Harvesting
facts such as (paraphrasing) ...

  From: Johnson David <DavidJohnson@Siemens.com>
  To:  ... freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
  Message-id: <9C4E897FB284BF4DBC9C0DC42FB34617641AFA@mvaexch01.acuson.com>
	1200 employees ... & Five Solaris IT guys  then ... V ...  900
	employees using MS need 20 MCSEs now.

Julian Stacey        Net & Sys Eng Consultant, Munich       http://berklix.com
Mail in Ascii (Html=Spam).  Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz.



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