From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Feb 11 2:25:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from screech.weirdnoise.com (209-128-78-198.bayarea.net [209.128.78.198]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F5B4660 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 02:25:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from screech.weirdnoise.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by screech.weirdnoise.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA21569; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 02:26:14 -0800 Message-Id: <200002111026.CAA21569@screech.weirdnoise.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: My views on Eclipse/BSD In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:06:01 PST." <7654.950241961@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 02:26:14 -0800 From: Ed Hall Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm quite pleased with what we, as individuals, will be able to learn about Eclipse, and the terms of the license don't interfere with that one bit. But--and this is my *only* objection to the license terms--we each are prohibited from discussing what we discover, absent Lucent's written permission. Such discussion would include posting to this or any other mailing list. I'm not from the GPL-or-hell set. Lucent has a perfect right to share under whatever terms they like. Our license encourages this, which is fundamentally a good thing. But they considerably reduce the usefulness of their offering to us--and, ultimately, to themselves-- by restricting us from discussing our observations of it. One can argue that such prohibitions are unenforcible, or that Lucent isn't likely to attempt to enforce them. And my read of the situation is that this is probably the case. This time. But I, for one, would rather the moral ambiguity be removed, not passed over. -Ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message