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From: Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>
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Subject: Re: cvs commit: src UPDATING src/share/man/man5 make.conf.5 src/
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On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, John Baldwin wrote:

> On 30-Jul-2002 Brian Dean wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 01:51:04AM -0700, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> >>   ...
> >>   Log:
> >>   Ignore -C, -p, and -S options of install(1) when used with the -d
> >>   option.  Warn about COPY being phased out.  Restore the old method
> >>   of always comparing before installing: INSTALL="install -C".
> >>
> >>   Requested by:   bde
> >
> > Won't this make it difficult to see what is actually installed by an
> > installworld target?  Doing an 'ls -lt /bin', for example, and
> > examining the date time stamps would easily identify cruft not
> > installed by the current system.  Or am I misunderstanding this change
> > (defaulting to -C)?
>
> It doesn't default to -C, it just makes -Cd not be a fatal error
> again.

Also, you could do things like "ls -lct" to compare inode change times
even if you use -C or -p unconditionally.  -C always sets the inode
change time almost intentionally as a side effect of setting various
attributes unconditionally, although this defeats one of the original
points of having -C (to not gratuitously change things so that
incremental backups don't keep backing up null changes).

Bruce


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