From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Mon Mar 6 19:41:04 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF2DCFB95C for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2017 19:41:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-it0-x22f.google.com (mail-it0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95A0B1253 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2017 19:41:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-it0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id 203so57423121ith.0 for ; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 11:41:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=6K3s0ZTteES2HL34Cex8Zu++5s9O8k0VpANLHqAKcLw=; b=PYawUZysfMemgTSlYU/JoaeFM0vfmLD1JlE4h3sC+TzO1vJ2mqOsGE7jZf1Ar1e0p1 XFJhpknJfpwaQVTJyi7geDRKkX6lcrUhYB9GGhO3zU03+FqykhmQo+KD4NwWQ54iEImA /gORhvQ4BhF5i4TZSja5Suxgwh+9pgueUj9bj0ONgg4PORQIBXCQE4Op3SX1befcRXWI pQhZn4XRTtngWJKHhLVfmrnjKOu6AtOe4R367b1aKK6SIMnRMEH7C4+/PGBWMNTUiI8x rlfJYpBb0/8Sob7NtUBW9UzcPDvTl+VOUI12BNFZp2CvWSeg+Q/O8Bca7TV8NxLo4y3h JBxQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=6K3s0ZTteES2HL34Cex8Zu++5s9O8k0VpANLHqAKcLw=; b=MSCeLe28jgoRZBY/tasBMLpFc4yV6lXN+Xx+J/Qgx8dBJhElX09iL7m7VCD9gt1GYw GkiGN6vmsZdK5gGP+gL8h6p8O1jwcUYZiemVsdoFOjclGOuWzYa531vINxRB91B9X5iY n/dW86u1OSZMoQBPsiPE6lYd3+ujxCGLHixn06sLutTkRxDe4J8QCVyC8z/9PDjZfne0 uayXgyyNlizjgk3Sdoi+GOORTZTPzDNqWw1GlV7FvxD7iy0t+IRbt7WVGbOrNeGMEtqL 8qqxVqEIagGgJFXnnkPt3TfJDdWjJsjjpSEmA9OKwipG0N0glr4WSWf8z3q7Cm9FAKrC bm+A== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39nCtMZJkE/3jXPz00Roq8P0yYGqoxNm69aFftiKw1K9iJvsbAek8sPC4nfEqFVHGNmH8eFaieWBAkgEGQ== X-Received: by 10.36.93.213 with SMTP id w204mr18520666ita.60.1488829263849; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 11:41:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 10.79.134.129 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Mar 2017 11:41:03 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [69.53.245.200] In-Reply-To: References: <201703061915.v26JFSSd089794@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <1488828735.18764.43.camel@freebsd.org> From: Warner Losh Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 12:41:03 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0Ux257X9jmiWrAoZM--90snbQg0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r314709 - head To: Bryan Drewery Cc: Ian Lepore , rgrimes@freebsd.org, src-committers , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 19:41:04 -0000 On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Bryan Drewery wrote: > There is also a lot of demand for building from Linux or OSX. That will > require additional bootstrapping. Either way, we'll never get away from > bootstrapping, and the cost of keeping current-2 support is pretty low. Yes. And in this case the workaround should be pretty trival. As I noted elsewhere, we've supported bootstrapping from current-2 since ~FreeBSD 6.x. Juniper needed it for a long time and they maintained it in the tree. The cost is generally tiny (though there has been one issue with clang that required an upgrade to the host compiler due to a bug in the host compiler so that it could compile the compiler). This should be fixed. Glad to see Ian's on it. Warner