From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 6 01:46:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C2D106566B for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 01:46:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.org) Received: from dragon.nuxi.org (trang.nuxi.org [74.95.12.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF95A8FC08 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 01:46:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dragon.nuxi.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p961kTvO033711; Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:46:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.org (8.14.5/8.14.4/Submit) id p961kTkG033710; Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:46:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:46:28 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Benjamin Kaduk Message-ID: <20111006014628.GB19960@dragon.NUXI.org> Mail-Followup-To: obrien@freebsd.org, Benjamin Kaduk , Arnaud Lacombe , freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <201109260053.SAA25795@lariat.net> <201109260927.02540.jhb@freebsd.org> <201109262035.OAA17199@lariat.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT X-to-the-FBI-CIA-and-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Arnaud Lacombe Subject: Re: Experiences with FreeBSD 9.0-BETA2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 01:46:30 -0000 On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 07:48:23PM -0400, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > My recollection is that this is because kensmith forgot to take > 'makeoptions DEBUG=-g' out of GENERIC when branching stable/8, and no one > noticed until a couple of releases in, at which point it seemed consistent > with POLA to just keep it there. Unfortunately I am not having much luck > digging through mail archives trying to confirm that. > I don't remember whether the plan was to turn it off on stable/9 or not. When I split out the symbols from the kernel, the intention was to always build with -g so users would have the symbols to help debug reported problems. If one was running a stock release kernel, they are not needed as we know where to find them -- the intention was to have a kernel-symbols tarball that was an option install. I pretty strongly feel that -g should not be removed from stable/9's kernel configs. Otherwise we're more in the dark when folks report problems from tracking -STABLE. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)