From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 23 16:36:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55920106566C for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 16:36:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: from bizet.nethelp.no (bizet.nethelp.no [195.1.209.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 905868FC1B for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 16:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 72254 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2011 16:36:42 -0000 Received: from bizet.nethelp.no (HELO localhost) (195.1.209.33) by bizet.nethelp.no with SMTP; 23 Apr 2011 16:36:42 -0000 Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:36:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <20110423.183641.41662287.sthaug@nethelp.no> To: scottl@samsco.org From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: References: <20110420203754.GM85668@acme.spoerlein.net> <4DAF46F8.9040004@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, mav@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Switch from legacy ata(4) to CAM-based ATA X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 16:36:45 -0000 > In other words, "ada" isn't the problem here, it's that we all still think in terms of the 1980's when systems didn't autoconfigure and device names were important hints to system functionality. That time has thankfully passed, and it's time for us to catch up. If this is important for disk type devices, why not also for network type devices? Why don't we all use ethX like Linux does? Personally I *like* knowing something about the underlying type of device and technology - but I can definitely see both sides of the argument here. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no