From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 00:23:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E7816A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:23:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43F343D3F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:23:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin02-en2 [10.13.10.147]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id j2L0NAmS028292; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:23:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) (authenticated bits=0)j2L0N8I4009823; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:23:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <675d3ce0af3a8518d69f1d8a63be0ad2@ropersonline.com> References: <4b92be18094f69f731f15c4872428459@mac.com> <675d3ce0af3a8518d69f1d8a63be0ad2@ropersonline.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:23:07 -0500 To: Jens Ropers X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:23:11 -0000 On Mar 20, 2005, at 6:30 PM, Jens Ropers wrote: > Lets please stop feeding this troll. I'll grant him that his bait is > cleverly constructed but that doesn't give him the right to degrade a > vital discussion to ad hominem attacks, rhetorical nitpicking and > all-out bickering. Nor does it give him the right to shit on the misc > list. Trolls are not interested in understanding the opposite party's > point of view or resolving outstanding questions, they're interested > in scoring points and keeping you occupied -- like in somebody's sig > here, it's like mud-wrestling a pig: You both get dirty but the pig > enjoys it. Point of fact: I've never posted an unsolicited message to an OpenBSD list. I'm responding to threads which appear in my inbox because Theo and others have decided to cross-post between and . In fact, Theo has started cross-posting additional threads, and he has rejected Tomas Quintero's simple request that he stop changing Subject: headers-- see Message-ID <200503202227.j2KMRUR6010217@cvs.openbsd.org>-- in which he asserts that this discussion "is entirely useful", and that: > > Try and keep your subjects together so I can archive them more easily > > and not be forced to read over more. If anything, this sort of email > > belongs entirely on your misc lists, not the freebsd lists. > > It belongs whereveer there are people who care about being able to > have drivers for their hardware. I don't read , and I'm not the one starting new threads. Your objections to trolling are well-taken, but directed at the wrong person. If you acknowledge these facts, a retraction would be accepted. If you disagree with the facts as presented, I suggest asking a disinterested third-party and gaining a second opinion. -- -Chuck