From owner-freebsd-small Mon Oct 5 14:47:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08505 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:47:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freeby.mesanet.com (mesa.dial.idiom.com [209.157.70.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08488 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:47:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pcw@mesanet.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freeby.mesanet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA00234; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:44:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Wallace To: Jerry Hicks cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Command-line i/f (Re: PicoBSD) In-Reply-To: <199810052109.RAA11605@jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics On Mon, 5 Oct 1998, Jerry Hicks wrote: > > > > > > > > Whats the big deal about cramming this onto a single floppy... > > Wouldn't a real embedded FreeBSD application use a small flash drive? The > > smallest chips that we use now are 4 M Bytes and about $12.00, cheaper > > than a floppy drive! > > Good Point! > > Of course, flash drives are hardly ubiquitous just now. Older PC's with > floppy drive are abundantly available to the average user. Of course our interest is more for embedded systems than people with a spare PC... > > And I think you meant 4 Mbit are the smallest devices you are using (providing > only 524288 bytes of raw capacity). Twelve dollars is the amount for flash > chips, not a usable 'flash drive'. No, $12.00 is for 4M bytes (32 Mbit chip - TC58V32 same as SmartMedia in different package) -- added circuitry for a flash drive is less than $1.00 for a software FFS flash drive and about $11.00 for an hardware IDE compatible flash drive. > > Those are still more expensive than a floppy drive. Not for an OEM, but whats really missing for minimum cost is an unencumbered FFS for XXXBSD, Linux etc. Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics > > Cheers, > > Jerry Hicks > jerry.hicks@glenayre.com > > > > > > > Peter Wallace > > Mesa Electronics > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message