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Date:      Tue, 07 Dec 1999 13:38:39 +1100
From:      Harry Woodward-Clarke <Harry.Woodward-Clarke@S1.com>
To:        cjclark@home.com
Cc:        Dutch Collins <dutch@charm.net>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Using CD as Backup Dev
Message-ID:  <384C732F.D12FCAE9@S1.com>
References:  <199912070218.VAA52638@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com>

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Whoa there!

> 
> Dutch Collins wrote,
> > I have been thinking of using a CD for backups. I figure a 18gig SCSI
> > drive and a SCSI CD make a perfect couple. So, is this practicable?
> 
> An 18 GB drive can fill about 28 CDs. If you have a 8x burner, that's
> still well over 4 hours to write. Does your CDROM have an automated
> 28+ CD changer? That's a long time to sit around swapping CDs.  Now,
> do you think that is "practicable?"
> --

You need to consider, you can use gzip to compress the tar file, so that
can "roughly" halve the backup size. (9Gb) 

Not too many will run a disk at 100% (rule of thumb for me is "80% is
'full'"). That takes us down to 7Gb compressed :')

One would expect that not all of the data is "user" data, so let's allow
a generous 2 Gb for non-changing system type data (e.g. BSD itself,
NetNav, StarOffice or whatever and a bunch of other applications that
can be easily recovered from CD).

5Gb or so is still a lot to burn to a CD. About 9 or 10 CDs. (Here is Oz
I can get a box of 10 CD media for $18.50 - well, that was the price
last week, the week before it was $22.)

How much has changed since the last backup? Perhaps adopt a cycle of
"full-backup" each Sunday afternoon (while watching the idiot-box), and
then incremental each evening during the week. One would expect changes
since the previous incremental to be less than a CDs worth - especially
if it were compressed :')

With all of this, you could "pretend" you were an 'operator' in the
'bad-old-days' when all they had to do of an evening was feed tapes into
tape drives for backups :')

So, maybe you could get by with 2 hours on a Sunday afternoon feeding in
9 or 10 CDs, and 20 minutes each evening.

Even if you reduce the 2 hour stint to once a month, and backup once a
week, the fact remains that even that backup-policy is better than the
one most others adopt (none at all).

For ease and simplicity, you still can't beat a big tape-drive, or a
smaller one with a tape-caddy :')

Now, a writable DVD looks promising ;')

haxxa


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