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Date:      Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:38:09 +0300
From:      Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Ade Lovett <ade@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, ports@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Diking out ports a.out support (was Re: cvs commit:  ports/audio/sidplay Makefile)
Message-ID:  <395B6D60.65640F29@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <200006230927.CAA23802@freefall.freebsd.org> <20000623080800.F77304@argon.gryphonsoft.com> <3953573F.7B95B83E@FreeBSD.org> <20000623094306.I44870@FreeBSD.org> <20000628221306.G31775@dragon.nuxi.com> <20000629103349.D31932@lovett.com>

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Ade Lovett wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 10:13:06PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 23, 2000 at 09:43:06AM -0500, Ade Lovett wrote:
> > > Agreed.  At the same time, any remnants of PORTOBJFORMAT, or a.out
> > > shared library names in PLISTs, or aout in general needs to go
> > > (adios 2.x)
> >
> > Since we already have the machanism in place, I fail to see what we gain
> > by diking it out.  Since we have a method, there is no reason to not give
> > the 2.x users a fighting chance of getting a port to build and install.
>
> Well, in my eyes, it is extra "cruft" that is no longer needed, since
> it's stated quite clearly that ports only supports -stable and -current
> and that anything else is a fluke.
>
> Second, we're almost certainly going to be visiting a large number
> of PLISTs in the not to distant future with the "famous" NOPORTDOCS
> hack, which is already being used elsewhere to manage PLISTS more
> effectively.
>
> Third, someone staying with an a.out machine is doing so for reasons
> of extreme stability -- adding new-fangled versions of ports would
> go against that stability.
>
> Fourth, killing a.out support just after 4.1-RELEASE means that
> we'll have had 7 releases (3.1 and up) since an purely a.out
> FreeBSD system existed.  That's an awful long time to keep legacy
> around.
>
> Finally, I would imagine that most ports going in now rely on other
> ports where there is no a.out support, so there's going to be
> very little chance of them ever working under a.out
>
> Having said all of the above, I'm willing to go with the majority.
> (Perhaps we need a freebsd-portsarch.. just kidding :)

Seconded (I'm forwarding it to -ports where it belongs).

-Maxim



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