From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 03:29:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627EF16A41F for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 03:29:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mig@rabade.net) Received: from mail.eurorscg.com.mx (mail.eurorscg.com.mx [148.245.12.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB5143D46 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 03:29:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mig@rabade.net) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.eurorscg.com.mx [127.0.0.1]) by mail.eurorscg.com.mx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F7DAE0A for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:35:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.eurorscg.com.mx [127.0.0.1]) by mail.eurorscg.com.mx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A16AE02 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:35:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail.eurorscg.com.mx ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.eurorscg.com.mx [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 85552-10 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:35:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail.rabade.net (unknown [201.135.197.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.eurorscg.com.mx (Postfix) with ESMTP id F28F4AE01 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:35:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from laptop.rabade.net (laptop.rabade.net [192.168.1.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.rabade.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A18F22835 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:43:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:29:48 -0500 From: Manuel Rabade Garcia To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050829222948.25b3993e@laptop.rabade.net> In-Reply-To: <001e01c5ace5$f62c16e0$b47ba8c0@maximus> References: <000101c5ac82$66f25290$b47ba8c0@maximus> <20050829171305.GA70155@neptune.atopia.net> <001e01c5ace5$f62c16e0$b47ba8c0@maximus> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.13 (GTK+ 2.6.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mail.eurorscg.com.mx Subject: Re: building an older server X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 03:29:55 -0000 On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 00:59:43 +0300 "ANdrei" wrote: > > I personally use 802.11b for the server (Linksys WMP11 v2...it's an > > old card, but wi(4) works with it). > > I have no money to put into this server, the hardware mentioned is > already in my workroom, lying around, but I can't afford to buy more. > So I can use any hardware from like 15 motherboards, lots of NICs and > so on (all old :), but this is just what I thought to be the most > appropiate for building a server, mainly because I considered 2 > processors of 400MHz to be better then 1 of 800MHz, and because I > considered that this motherboard is probably designed more carefully > and for enduring more, being a board designed for servers, even if an > old model... 2x400 Mhz Celerons can have worst performance than a single 800 Mhz processor (and I bet they will if the single processor is a P3 or even another Celeron). But for your requirements 2 Celerons are enough, and SMP is always better to rise your geeky level xDDDD > The wifi cards I have are both 802.11g, I would use > 802.11b if I had one, but I don't :) And besides I thought that once > u have a 802.11b in your 802.11g-only network, the data throughput > will be a bit slowed down on all clients (not down to 11MBps, but not > as good as without the 802.11b client in ur network) - can anyone > confirm this (we had a review on this in our CHIP Magazine, a few > months ago). > For the wireless, most of the cheap 802.11g Access Points change their mode (and of course all the clients also) to 802.11b if there is a 802.11b client. You can setup the Access Point to handle only 802.11b or 802.11g clients, but that depends of the Model. > > I can't comment here, as I only use WEP, and have only used 6 on a > > workstation. > > > well, any impressions appreciated: what did the 6 "feel" like? > rock-stable or whacky? :) > another big question: is WEP really that bad? I mean, how fast can > you crack it? Is it just paranoia, or can any kid in my neighbourhood > get into my network? I don't expect to have THE HACKER roaming around > where my server is, but there are occasional kids and neighbours who > might try their 2 words computer-science they know on my network... > so should I relax and go for 5.4 with WEP and not be stressed to get > the 6.x with PSK? > WEP (64 and 128 bits) are very insecure against modern attacks (some methods can broke 128 bits keys in ~10 minutes, even without traffic). Check out an IP Sec or WPA-PSK to secure your wireless network if you care :). > > > You might want to check HARDWARE.txt if it's supported. An > > apropos(1) here for "HighPoint" only yields results for hptmv(4), > > which supports the RocketRAID 128x. You will most likely want to > > recompile it into your kernel if such support exists; you should do > > so anyway, to reduce the bloat and get rid of unnecessary drivers > > in your kernel. By the way, my machine uses an Abit BH6 (single > > CPU, pIII/500). > > I'll check for support. I don't have access to a FreeBSD box at this > moment, so I'm planning all theoretically. Once I'm close the FreeBSD > box again I'll check, but that will also be the moment I have to > quickly decide what to use :) and I try not to wait until then to get > an idea of everything ;) I will recompile the kernel anyway, but the > question is if I can install on disks on that controller from the > beginning, or do I have to do it first on a normal controller and > only after recompiling will I see my disks on the HighPoint? > btw, this is same genration of motherboard: any stability issues? > they are supposed to be rock solid, right?... > I have a HighPoint HPT374 in a server and works very fine (with the propietary drivers :-/). Look in the HighPoint page if they support FreeBSD for that controller, or the HARDWARE.txt as somebody else suggests. Greetings. -- Manuel Rabade Garcia PGP - 1024D/D27DE2F3 2005-03-18 Fingerprint - 7965 0CCE B9F8 B96B 2E6F 0B88 278C 52F8 D27D E2F3