From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 5 13:24:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497F5E8B for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 13:24:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0EDCDE9 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 13:24:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r05DOiJu081524 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 5 Jan 2013 14:24:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id r05DOhnv081521; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 14:24:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 14:24:43 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: Trying to update from 9.0 to 9.1 via svn In-Reply-To: <20130105105956.490d2adb@X220.ovitrap.com> Message-ID: References: <20130105105956.490d2adb@X220.ovitrap.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="2055831798-884942623-1357392284=:41917" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fig.ol.no Cc: Helmut Schneider , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:24:55 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --2055831798-884942623-1357392284=:41917 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sat, 5 Jan 2013 10:59+0700, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, 5 Jan 2013 02:40:13 +0000 (UTC) > "Helmut Schneider" wrote: > > > Trond Endrestøl wrote: > > > > > BTW, do you nuke the contents of /usr/obj prior to recompiling the > > > system? The command rm -Rf /usr/obj/* should accomplish this rather > > > well. > > > > That might have been the issue, yes. Works now. Thanks. > > doesn't this indicate an error in the make file? > > Shouldn't sources be compiled when their date is newer then the date of > the object file? That assumes a lot of things, like the clock is running correctly at all times, e.g. under the control of NTP or some other mechanism. If said computer dual boots Microsoft OS, then most likely the firmware clock (BIOS clock, RTC) runs in local time. Should you then boot FreeBSD straight into single user mode with /etc/wall_cmos_clock present, and you fail to run adjkerntz -i while in single user mode, then the clock will be off by 1 or 2 hours, depending on daylight saving time is in effect or not. Next, svn sets the date and time on each checked out file to the present date and time. If the clock is running in the future at the time of check out/update a lot of things might happen at the time of compilation of the source code. Of course, I'm just speculating, the one who knows most about the issue at hand is Helmut. > Or was the last compilation done after the affected file got updated at > the server? > > Shouldn't there be a system in place which automatically deletes all > object files automatically? make buildworld does include a step where certain files are wiped. It still doesn't hurt to take matters in your own hands. > Either a process is automated 100% or not at all is what I would say. Outer forces may be at play as outlined above. Anyway, this is all part of learning to cope with changes, mistakes, wrong assumptions, etc. > Erich -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ --2055831798-884942623-1357392284=:41917--