From nobody Sat Dec 4 06:46:54 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E940918B98B2 for ; Sat, 4 Dec 2021 06:46:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx1.riseup.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4J5gGV2Zt8z4dFT for ; Sat, 4 Dec 2021 06:46:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from fews2.riseup.net (fews2-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.84]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.riseup.net", Issuer "R3" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4J5gGT3fBkzF4YD for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 22:46:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1638600417; bh=eEAqqaMPxeY2/IUHcjIPQ8baHjQ2gbcV0Kpkw7JD+6Y=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=ll7TNNVU8m4eOh5/o8PNVDTiT0x2WQD93Xq+qFqomJLmivT3al8F82PqMbFPruRNf MY0TPa/A/7RQ76LL+SSn/0zSAe3qXJybvud3/2UFkFTuI6KBP3jPTubgjzJunns0qW L+RKMOo+9L1gpgiaYhDNOx+Z207n1szBQ4IQQysw= X-Riseup-User-ID: 5361F35BFD00EF3ED5D8FF919FD3A927FCA2A644BE0D69517E7D7C3B2B2AA563 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews2.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4J5gGS67zxz20St for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 22:46:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 07:46:54 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: We would like to be an agent for FreeBSD in China Message-ID: <20211204074654.79c73861@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20211204074009.7be19073@archlinux> References: <61AA1C30.3050702@gmail.com> <9bbb870e-669b-223d-9acd-f6f2e052d97b@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20211203172214.04695a99@archlinux> <20211204074009.7be19073@archlinux> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4J5gGV2Zt8z4dFT X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=ll7TNNVU; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.60 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 07:40:09 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >FWIW a few mails sent to the list and some off-list discussions >related to this thread are messed up nonsense. I sent the below link >already off-list, but it might be a helpful starting point for the >list, too. > >https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/media_2021/01/2021_hrw_world_report.pdf > >Be careful with comparing the wrongs of some nations with the deep >wrongs of other nations. PS: I'm aware of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Human_Rights_Watch and similar ;), hence the phrase "it might be a helpful starting point".