From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 26 16:58:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87BD37C5; Sun, 26 May 2013 16:58:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x22d.google.com (mail-ob0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22d]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB6D285; Sun, 26 May 2013 16:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f173.google.com with SMTP id eh20so7117873obb.4 for ; Sun, 26 May 2013 09:58:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=j6owUBVaFAaaYR7sSEcFF/3ANBk2sHWApispB/sI+xw=; b=xMP/rkCJgqE6hja83ASu1d5mnyQks/4Q4C2CH1JrqISAWCadrOBAG1uExxS2k4kEms RnQISAgLYqxLWDgx5PkYmb3e9Hoy/H4B9EY+x07gZw324pMjC1FjidJum6j0qSP2/0gg lFrzWEfTYGOKkwufnz00jlP6TGkHzNrBzGGw6M7Gzhe4xmIcN9lLdRMNzev8XRAK7hGJ QwhWn9zdncPHbz/llb1ktfWqEv2m+LE3TOLWRRWBU8lZuphzE2rEyLCdvU4vlX+l+JhF bx4yL6ZYZLSk0I39P8v/AaqVeljlOipynHallKAkB7tR40Bd8nUEBi08nt5ZDNLMEw2B AKjg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.83.103 with SMTP id p7mr16195365oey.130.1369587524727; Sun, 26 May 2013 09:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.53.231 with HTTP; Sun, 26 May 2013 09:58:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201F5B337@ltcfiswmsgmb26> References: <51A0DC3F.9030301@cran.org.uk> <51A1025A.2020607@cran.org.uk> <51A14445.4060305@freebsd.org> <51A15EDF.6050600@erdgeist.org> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201F5B337@ltcfiswmsgmb26> Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 12:58:44 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD installers and future direction From: Super Bisquit To: Devin Teske Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , Dirk Engling , Nathan Whitehorn X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 16:58:46 -0000 May I- and others- see the hyperlink to the project, please? On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Teske, Devin w= rote: > > On May 25, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Super Bisquit wrote: > > > Please don't turn this into an architecture dependent mess. PCBSD is > i386 & > > AMD64 only. > > > > There's a GSoC project (of which I'm potential mentor) to fix that. > > However, you are entirely right=85 we can't in all seriousness even think > about using pc-sysinstall until it is solid on all architectures as > bsdinstall already is. > > GSoC project is: "Making pc-sysinstall FreeBSD ready by porting it to > multiple architectures" > -- > Devin > > > > > > > On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Dirk Engling > wrote: > > > >> On 26.05.13 01:07, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > >> > >>> I'm not aware of any movement there (on either side of the table). I'= d > >>> personally be very suspicious of an all-sh(1) future -- by far the > >>> cleanest parts of bsdinstall are in C -- and this is especially true > for > >>> interacting with geom. That said, since I've lost nearly all of my fr= ee > >>> time and ability to work on bsdinstall, I won't get in the way of > anyone > >>> else working on things > >> > >> As discussed at BSDCan, I'd be willing to participate in the developme= nt > >> and at least implement setting up zpools/zfs and geli/gbde providers. = I > >> have done similar things in sh in my ezjail tools and think I can glue > >> the rest together. > >> > >> Scanning through the pc-sysinstall code, I find nothing too fancy ther= e > >> regarding either interaction with zfs nor geom tools. I do not think i= t > >> is necessary as a back end just for these features. > >> > >> Nathan, is there any design rationale available for the scripts, e.g. = on > >> why you chose sh versus C and were you provided with some kind of wish > >> list/requirements in the first place? Any particular mail thread to sc= an > >> through beforehand? > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> erdgeist > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _____________ > The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or > confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete t= he > message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the messa= ge > in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. 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