From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 26 10:23:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F5C16A4BF for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-relay1.mirrorimage.net (mail-relay1.mirrorimage.net [209.58.140.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F0743FBD for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:23:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leblanc@mirrorimage.net) Received: from leblanc.mirrorimage.net (leblanc.mirrorimage.net [209.192.210.146]) by mail-relay1.mirrorimage.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12033 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:23:38 -0400 Received: from leblanc.mirrorimage.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h7QHNmdO070595 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:23:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from leblanc@leblanc.mirrorimage.net) Received: (from leblanc@localhost) by leblanc.mirrorimage.net (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h7QHNmUr070594 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:23:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:23:48 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030826172347.GB70516@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org References: <3F4B8855.8030107@landgren.net> <5782B4D8-D7E7-11D7-9341-0030656DD690@foolishgames.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <5782B4D8-D7E7-11D7-9341-0030656DD690@foolishgames.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: National Security Backdoor in telnetd - all versions. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:23:48 -0000 On 08/26/03 01:04 PM, Lucas Holt sat at the `puter and typed: > Even if this is true, who has telnet open anymore? Thats like saying > there is a back door in WOW (the 16bit compatibility mode of Winnt to > run win 3.x apps). > > I'd like to see REAL proof of this. Different file sizes don't prove > anything. When I compile freebsd, i have certain optimization flags > set for the compiler as well as settings for 6x86 cpus. That makes the > file size different too! In order to prove anything, you would have to > compile the code in the exact same way it is built for FreeBSD > releases. In reality, only the source code "changes" would prove it. > I'm not above conspiracy theories, but this seems far fetched. Not to mention the exact same CPU, compiler version, etc.. But even so, none of it would matter unless the hole itself were identified. I can tell you theres a secret door in the back of the White House all I want, but until I show you the door, and how it opens and is hidden, my word means absolutely nothing. And I'd bet a nickel there is no such proof. I'm the last person to believe the government doesn't lie to us, history has told us again and again that governments lie to their people. I just don't credit them with the intelligence and organizational ability to pull something like this off without it being made public with details. Anyone wanting to respond to this thread and keep feeding the troll, I recommend browsing this guys site first. Can you say 'paranoia'? How about 'highly impressionable' or 'overactive imagination' . . . And yeah, who the hell leaves telnetd open anymore? I plain delete the damn thing when I notice it's sneaked back in with an upgrade. L -- Louis LeBlanc leblanc@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ԿԬ The best diplomat I know is a fully activated phaser bank. -- Scotty