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Date:      Thu, 7 Jun 2001 01:59:20 -0400
From:      "William Wong" <willwong@samurai.com>
To:        "Brian Behlendorf" <brian@collab.net>, "Gordon Tetlow" <gordont@bluemtn.net>
Cc:        "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@veldy.net>, <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: IPFilter licence update
Message-ID:  <002201c0ef16$ff0042a0$0300a8c0@anime.ca>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.31.0106062215520.1996-100000@localhost>

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Not sure if this was mentioned on this thread, but it looks like a commit
was made recently which moved ipfilter into contrib.

- Will

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Behlendorf" <brian@collab.net>
To: "Gordon Tetlow" <gordont@bluemtn.net>
Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@veldy.net>; <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 1:21 AM
Subject: Re: IPFilter licence update


> On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Gordon Tetlow wrote:
> > I removed Darren from the CC list as I don't think he really needs to be
> > in on this discussion....
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> >
> > > While meaning no disrespect to Darren with this followup.  What good
does  a
> > > signed memorandum with FreeBSD do if I decide at some point (which I
won't)
> > > to take the FreeBSD source and branch it into my own variant?  This is
how
> > > the various BSDs came about in the first place.  It does seem rather
> > > restrictive of a license for the FreeBSD core system.  Why can't this
be
> > > released under the BSD license?
> >
> > <abestos_suit>
> > It's not released under a BSD license because he doesn't want to. His
> > perogative. We have some much more restrictive licenses (ie GPL) in the
> > base OS and no one complains about them.
> > </abestos_suit>
>
> Wait, I'm confused.  I thought the resolution was that the ipfilter code
> that was a part of FreeBSD was under the standard BSD license like
> everything else under /usr/src (aside from /usr/src/gnu), and that
> Darren's no-redistribution-of-modifications clause applied to
> non-"release" versions of the software, i.e. beta releases, etc, the
> implication being that once released, it'd be put under a BSD license and
> then integrated into FreeBSD.  Is that not the case?
>
> If not, that's pretty bad - it means that you can't really say anymore
> that 'FreeBSD is under the BSD license, aside from some GNU bits', you
> have to say 'FreeBSD is under a multitude of licenses, some of them not
> open source, please examine all source code files for potential licenses
> before redistributing'.  That would suck.
>
> Frankly, Darren's "no modified versions may be redistributed"
> "clarification" is much worse than even the GPL.  But I'll avoid
> recrossing well-covered ground.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>
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