Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:13:00 -0800 From: Darren Pilgrim <list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com> To: Mark Felder <feld@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update Message-ID: <52E30F9C.7090607@bluerosetech.com> In-Reply-To: <1390591900.23972.74968289.53788D17@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <lblts0$9o1$1@ger.gmane.org> <CAJ5UdcO6V_YnyoJSA=JRL_D7vFzZ8yXcKnh2QcjNQDskbpE98w@mail.gmail.com> <5F09668C-0DEA-4074-A06C-BC4D29F92368@FreeBSD.org> <201401211149.45793.jhb@freebsd.org> <CAN6yY1uiNcWPuJL=O6osDhZci_YBXe7tRW0Nt_cUy25cCTbALQ@mail.gmail.com> <1390591900.23972.74968289.53788D17@webmail.messagingengine.com>
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On 1/24/2014 11:31 AM, Mark Felder wrote: > I agree with the rest of this thread. This is just awful. I'm basically > forced to do source based updates when jumping major versions because > freebsd-update is a nightmare to use. I've yet to go through a freebsd-update process that didn't require a manual clean-up afterward. It's easier (and faster) to build an obj tree on my desktop, ship it to my servers via NFS over a tunnel. Another scenario I've run into more than once: - Install release m.x - Realize there's a kernel/driver bug, fixed in m-stable - Source upgrade to m-stable - Release m.z happens, contains fix - Freebsd-update upgrade to m.z The updater will discover that all of /etc differs by $Id tag. A few will have non-edit differences. The rest are either default-empty files or files not found in the distribution (pf.conf, sshd keys, etc.). Freebsd-update will force me to manually approve every single change. With mergemaster, automatic upgrade takes care of all but the edits and provides a MUCH nicer diff editor for those. Mergemaster is a <1 minute process, even on I/O-constrained hardware. I understand that when freebsd-update was written there were "some problems" with the existing install/merge tools used for source upgrades; but I have to wonder: what issues could be so bad that the above is the lesser evil? Freebsd-update's merge needs to learn what mergemaster's can do. Until then, freebsd-update is a non-starter, IMO.
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