From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jan 27 4:51: 3 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A7637B401 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 04:50:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from apollo.laserfence.net (apollo.laserfence.net [196.44.69.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD0943F13 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 04:50:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@phoenix.home.laserfence.net) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by apollo.laserfence.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18d8iu-0000qL-00; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:50:49 +0200 Received: from prometheus-p0.datel.laserfence.net ([192.168.255.1] helo=prometheus.home.laserfence.net) by apollo.laserfence.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18d8iZ-0000q3-00; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:50:29 +0200 Received: from phoenix.home.laserfence.net ([192.168.0.2]) by prometheus.home.laserfence.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18d8iV-000EfL-00; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:50:24 +0200 Received: from will by phoenix.home.laserfence.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 18d8iV-0004aN-00; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:50:23 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Willie Viljoen To: Michael Lucas Subject: Re: Project to improve FreeBSD PR Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:50:22 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <200301270026.32035.will@unfoldings.net> <20030127074527.B93869@blackhelicopters.org> In-Reply-To: <20030127074527.B93869@blackhelicopters.org> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200301271450.22968.will@unfoldings.net> X-Spam-Score: (/) X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *18d8iZ-0000q3-00*FGxThr56Vv.* X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020422 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael, the embarssment was (luckily) limited to me and my overzealous e= ffort=20 :) I'm happy to say that quite a few people have volunteered help so far in=20 response to my post yesterday, unfortunately alot of work has managed to = fall=20 into my lap today, so the launch date that Stacy and I had in mind (this=20 coming Saturday) might be a bit ambitious, we'll see :) Will On Monday 27 January 2003 14:45, you wrote: > I suppose, after me bitching that "nobody had done anything," we > should be happy to now have an embarrassment of people willing to > actually do something. :-) Glad to see you working together. > > =3D=3Dml > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 12:26:32AM +0200, Willie Viljoen wrote: > > In the excitement of setting up a project, it seems Stacy and I have > > managed to steal it inadvertantly from Peter Kieser. Our sincerest > > apologies to Peter for the offence, we hope that we can mend some fen= ces > > and possibly join forces with him. > > > > Also, some people, including Peter, have offered servers to help host= a > > domain for such a site, our thanks to you all. Please keep the pledge= s > > coming. > > > > The origional idea for the project is from Peter Kieser, > > , please contact him with sugestions you might have f= or > > such a project. > > > > An HTML version of the mailing list's "TO DO LIST" to improve FreeBSD= PR, > > origionally posted by Eric Anderson has been set up by Stacy Olivas > > and is available at > > http://digiflux.org/fbsd-advocacy/ > > > > If you wish to contribute hosting of back-up DNS, back-up MX or WWW s= pace > > for the planned web site, please contact me for > > details. > > > > Once again, we apologize profusely to Peter and everybody else for ou= r > > overzealous grabbing of his idea, we're not only looking for technica= l > > contributions, any hands we can get are welcome too, we hope that Pet= er > > would be willing to give us a hand, possibly as a project leader and/= or > > an editor for the site, I certainly don't think I'm much of a project > > leader, and I'm sure Stacy would agree that we could do well focusing= on > > technical aspects of such a project, with someone with the right fiel= d of > > skills providing the leadership and co-ordination we would need to ta= ckle > > this properly, and most certainly to avoid stepping on people's toes = in > > future. > > > > Any technical help would also be appreciated, or even links or resour= ces > > you may know of that would be handy to such a project, please let us > > know. > > > > It is my hope that Peter and Stacy aren't too vexed by the arogance I > > displayed with my past few postings, especially appealing for help wi= th > > servers without consulting either of them, and, as Stacy writes in an > > earlier e-mail, that we can work together with instead of against eac= h > > other. Also with other projects out there that might be doing the sam= e > > thing. I'd feel very silly reinventing the wheel all the time if othe= rs > > have already put alot of work into this. It would be better to draw u= pon > > their input than to start from scratch and most probably affront even > > more people in the process. > > > > Sorry for all of the misunderstandings and unpleasantness I have caus= ed, > > if you feel like it, flames may be directed to will@unfoldings.net > > > > With the hope that this will mend some fences and un-burn some bridge= s... > > > > Kind Regards > > Will > > -- > > Willie Viljoen > > Freelance IT Consultant > > > > 214 Paul Kruger Avenue, Universitas > > Bloemfontein > > 9321 > > South Africa > > > > +27 51 522 15 60 > > +27 51 522 44 36 (after hours) > > +27 82 404 03 27 (mobile) > > > > will@unfoldings.net > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message --=20 Willie Viljoen Freelance IT Consultant 214 Paul Kruger Avenue, Universitas Bloemfontein 9321 South Africa +27 51 522 15 60 +27 51 522 44 36 (after hours) +27 82 404 03 27 (mobile) will@unfoldings.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message