From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Sep 11 13:29:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D3E37B400 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:29:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from directvinternet.com (dsl-65-185-140-165.telocity.com [65.185.140.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3088643E4A for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:29:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nwestfal@directvinternet.com) Received: from Tolstoy.home.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by directvinternet.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BKTVGd047648; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:29:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nwestfal@directvinternet.com) Received: from localhost (nwestfal@localhost) by Tolstoy.home.lan (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id g8BKTUmA047641; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:29:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: Tolstoy.home.lan: nwestfal owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:29:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neal E. Westfall" X-X-Sender: nwestfal@Tolstoy.home.lan To: Joshua Lee Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? In-Reply-To: <20020911072410.4ad09b85.yid@softhome.net> Message-ID: <20020911132736.Y45696-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, Joshua Lee wrote: > > Reason does not damn them, their sinful use of it without > > acknowledging it as a gift from God is what damns them. They claim > > not to know God, but their reasoning ability is evidence to them that > > he does exist. > > I acknowledge that reason is a gift from G-d, we pray thanking G-d for > the gift of knowledge and understanding three times a day (among other > prayers in the shemoneh esrai), and am not an atheist. Yet, you still > believe I'll be eternally tortured for not worshiping the (your) > messiah? Yes, if you reject the Messiah, you will have no covering for your sin. It is *for your sins* that you will be punished, only one of which is rejecting the Messiah. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message