From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 19 11:49:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FACD1065697; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timp87@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150AA8FC15; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:49:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxn16 with SMTP id 16so2004304yxn.13 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 04:49:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=03BaH29H0tWdz98hnA3tXH4/2xQwBsAZdTGTzV3qGrk=; b=bn+3k2NndpMRoqg4e3BWLnqoOWSXvOp2RMOFFrOoOtujvIgtwkkrA/MOeX62FmCbmI VSlsHQxKn9/wp6tb9iYe+jA5wD5tpgz1litlr8tHlp/P70nT1LZ9Ge5gFHDBKxQx5u3l pP82SV3pgofD0aKk9wSq1LUE/OLjmfbWyMsD4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.6.25 with SMTP id 25mr10708897fax.14.1319024940101; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 04:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.24.67 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 04:49:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20111014160548.GD5065@albert.catwhisker.org> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:49:00 +0400 Message-ID: From: Pavel Timofeev To: Adrian Chadd X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:13:32 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: x.0 RELASE isn't for production. X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:49:01 -0000 2011/10/19 Adrian Chadd > On 19 October 2011 15:42, Pavel Timofeev wrote: > > > =) Thats why we don't have much people in FreeBSD. FreeBSD for users? or > > developers? > > > The big problem is that these conversations are not wanted everyone. > > Nobody cares. For example, Vadim Goncharov wrote big mail with > description > > of various problems in FreeBSD (organozation|system|ports|etc). Big > > consersation and all forgotten. Nothing has changed and will not change. > > Oh the conversations are wanted. People to build solutions to problems > are more wanted. > I'd love to, but I often lack the knowledge and skills. I'm tring to change that. > Some of what Vadim mentioned is being addressed (ports/package > infrastructure.) The other stuff is likely up for discussion post > 9.0-RELEASE. > Excelent. But I got carried away. > Remember - best way to help is to grab a problem and hack on it until > it's fixed. Yes, I know. Usually that's what i'm doing or want to do. > There's only so much that discussion, planning and more > discussion can do. > (Unless you're an AI researcher and can write systems to take > discussion/planning and output code. Then we'd all love to hear from > you.) > > > > Adrian >