Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 09:09:45 -0500 From: Walter Brameld <brameld@twave.net> To: "Dan O'Connor" <dan@jgl.reno.nv.us>, "R Joseph Wright" <rjoseph@nwlink.com>, "Greg Lehey" <grog@lemis.com> Cc: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: devices under 4.0 Message-ID: <00021909291100.02939@Bozo_3.BozoLand.domain> In-Reply-To: <015001bf7a8c$0c4323c0$0200000a@danco.home> References: <015001bf7a8c$0c4323c0$0200000a@danco.home>
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, in a never-ending search for enlightenment, Dan O'Connor wrote: > >As I see it, -CURRENT, or anything else for that matter, is for anyone who > >chooses to run it. If you don't want to 'hold my hand', you certainly > >have no obligation to respond to my question. > > Sir, you are out of line. And Greg is right: your comments belong > on -current, not -questions. > > Might I suggest you read the FreeBSD Handbook article "Staying Current with > FreeBSD" (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/cutting-edge.html#CURRENT), which > states, in part: > > 17.1.3. What is FreeBSD-current not? > > 1. A fast-track to getting pre-release bits because you heard > there is some cool new feature in there and you want to be > the first on your block to have it. > > 2. A quick way of getting bug fixes. > > 3. In any way ``officially supported'' by us. We do our best > to help people genuinely in one of the 3 ``legitimate'' > FreeBSD-current categories, but we simply do not have the > time to provide tech support for it..." > > I applaud your desire to walk the bleeding edge, but this does not entitle > you to attempt to start flame wars with members of this list when you don't > like the cold reality of their answers. > > Ask your question again on -current, keep a civil tongue, and you may find > some help. > > Good day, > > --Dan > I thought he did keep a civil tongue. To me it appeared he responded in the same vein that Greg did. Which was a bit caustic. Please bear in mind, if we had all the answers, we wouldn't be appealing to the people on this list. If you considered Mr. Wright's reply out of line, then by all rights you should have considered Greg's to be the same. I have seen a number of people on this list that could stand a few lessons in diplomacy. There is a nice way of doing things, and there is the "You brainless idiot, what are you doing here?" method. I have seen a number of questions directed at STABLE that belonged here and someone was nice enough to re-direct the question to the appropriate list, inform the originator as to the reason why, (This question is more appropriate for the QUESTIONS list, so I am re-directing it there) and have the grace to not make the originator feel like a social pariah. I suggest that the next time you, Greg or anyone else decides to respond to someone such as Mr. Wright or myself, that you first take a few deep breaths, reflect on the time when you didn't know everything and would have been grateful for a little help from some kind soul, and then try to BE that kind soul. -- Walter in·tel·lec·tu·al n. Someone who has been educated past his/her level of intelligence. Join the Army, meet interesting people, kill them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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