From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jan 18 23:56:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from gw.gbch.net (gw.gbch.net [203.24.22.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 78C8837B401 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:56:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13147 invoked by uid 1001); 19 Jan 2001 17:55:59 +1000 X-Posted-By: GJB-Post 2.11 18-Jan-2001 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://www.gbch.net X-Image-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb/img/gjb-auug048.gif X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5A91 6942 8CEA 9DAB B95B C249 1CE1 493B 2B5A CE30 X-PGP-Public-Key: http://www.gbch.net/gjb/gjb-pgpkey.asc Message-Id: Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:55:58 +1000 From: Greg Black To: dan@langille.org Cc: Warner Losh , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Patch to fix "make buildkernel requires full obj directory" mistake References: Your message of "Fri, 19 Jan 2001 01:23:41 GMT." <20010119012341.B98401@tao.org.uk> <200101190643.TAA05456@ducky.nz.freebsd.org> In-reply-to: <200101190643.TAA05456@ducky.nz.freebsd.org> of Fri, 19 Jan 2001 19:43:50 +1300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dan Langille wrote: > On 18 Jan 2001, at 20:13, Warner Losh wrote: > > > Still, I don't think it is too onerous a requirement that a buildworld > > have happened first. > > I disagree. Unless you qualify the above, you're saying that if I install > FreeBSD for the first time, in order to create a custom kernel, I need to > make world. Sorry, but that's breaking a long standing tradition of not > needing to make world before building a customer kernel. And > expecting someone new to FreeBSD to master build world before > getting them used to building a kernel is a bit too much of an ask. I haven't been following this thread, so I may have missed something here, but the comment above rang some alarms. Does any of this affect people who simply install a RELEASE from CD and then build a kernel to get their config the way they want? I'm assuming it doesn't, but I got worried by what you said here. Like lots of people who use FreeBSD rather than tinker with it, I have never done "make any-kind-of-world" and never expect to. I create a kernel config with my stuff in it, and do config, make, make install. I trust this is not going to be broken? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message