From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 29 09:07:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B155F16A4CE for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:07:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailout1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (mailout1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.0.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D3E43D31 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:07:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from langd@informatik.tu-muenchen.de) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:07:42 +0200 From: Daniel Lang To: "Karl M. Joch" Message-ID: <20040629090742.GE74930@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <20040626231221.GA11573@dragon.nuxi.com> <3949.1088292437@critter.freebsd.dk> <20040626.181218.21873777.imp@bsdimp.com> <20040626.182023.07659343.imp@bsdimp.com> <40DE7BD0.8080304@ctseuro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="RpqchZ26BWispMcB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40DE7BD0.8080304@ctseuro.com> X-Geek: GCS/CC d-- s: a- C++$ UBS++++$ P+++$ L- E-(---) W+++(--) N++ o K w--- O? M? V? PS+(++) PE--(+) Y+ PGP+ t++ 5+++ X R+(-) tv+ b+ DI++ D++ G++ e+++ h---(-) r+++ y+ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at informatik.tu-muenchen.de cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADSUP: ibcs2 and svr4 compat headed for history X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:07:50 -0000 --RpqchZ26BWispMcB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Karl, Karl M. Joch wrote on Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 09:48:32AM +0200: [..] > have to trash the stallion card they buyed because it was in the=20 > hardware compatibility list. most was mad, because they have invested=20 > the hardware after changing their systems from SCO to FreeBSD (we=20 > replaced a lot of them). Now I have to tell them "Great, you trashed the= =20 > cards (not alot of them have), but you have to stay at 4.x because the=20 > software (ERP/Financial/Billing) we moved from SCO to FreeBSD with IBCS= =20 > Emulation doesnt work on 5.x". >=20 > No, I am not able to maintain the moduls because i am not a good enough= =20 > programmer. If that would be the case i would have adapted the stallion= =20 > stl driver. [..] Hmmm,=20 this sounds like you are selling a product based on FreeBSD, which is fine and fair. However, since now you are relying on a feature which suffers from neglect, and you have already thought about contributing yourself, have you thought about offering some financial support to anyone who may be willing to support it? PHK's project appears to be a success, so maybe you could motivate someone with some financial contribution to=20 freshen up the code and at least put it in a port-maintainable state? Just a suggestion. Best regards, Daniel --=20 IRCnet: Mr-Spock - signs of absurd developments in the net community:=20 #42: - "Wurstbrot gehoert m.E. zum Fruehstuecks-botnet von Cartoon" - =20 Daniel Lang * dl@leo.org * +49 89 289 18532 * http://www.leo.org/~dl/ --RpqchZ26BWispMcB Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIIVcwYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIVZDCCFWACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC EugwggcAMIIF6KADAgECAgIj0zANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADByMQswCQYDVQQGEwJERTERMA8G A1UEBxMITXVlbmNoZW4xDDAKBgNVBAoTA1RVTTELMAkGA1UECxMCSU4xGDAWBgNVBAMTD1JC Ry1CZW51dHplci1DQTEbMBkGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYMY2FAaW4udHVtLmRlMB4XDTA0MDQyMzEz MTU1OFoXDTA1MDUzMTAwMDAwMFowdzELMAkGA1UEBhMCREUxETAPBgNVBAcTCE11ZW5jaGVu MQwwCgYDVQQKEwNUVU0xCzAJBgNVBAsTAklOMRQwEgYDVQQDEwtEYW5pZWwgTGFuZzEkMCIG CSqGSIb3DQEJARYVZGFuaWVsLmxhbmdAaW4udHVtLmRlMIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOC AQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAs1d9JUkGBG8T4m1wlzqfK2IU6pEZQcA00/hX1hlAVY5Jwv18rJncrOym 1dXSLubRIWZEEDRDPYCK0RhGHtaBYOTZpBSWezVkC2g6ioWS9wsnJpk0GIJN+o+k9L7+3vzE y/JemK2/ARtPIMo3jXMf7qD9rcZ6LD6SwUDtq8Tl3YE8pC8ptT4CROjS1SKHh7JI8a5vEUWw v/2C+a4VSW0blJu4G50Ze+UwAdHrEMxvCjXN09YyjcY4N/eUacWl7p/kMXuKErnibYRY8jJF wQnFzacWQrNRHjXO5mW06ZlbyvMzO5gQLSu7fAJMLXRZPT+bxNYZf4JUHJnNkn4Y8Ikg/QID AQABo4IDmTCCA5UwDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADAdBgNVHQ4EFgQUzXKq/vhVcUKYbsX7Z8ixXFhe F2YwgZMGA1UdIwSBizCBiIAUNiQ562ZHp7c9HjvDspUMZvpFEfuhbaRrMGkxCzAJBgNVBAYT AkRFMREwDwYDVQQHEwhNdWVuY2hlbjEMMAoGA1UEChMDVFVNMQswCQYDVQQLEwJJTjEPMA0G A1UEAxMGUkJHLUNBMRswGQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFgxjYUBpbi50dW0uZGWCAQUwDgYDVR0PAQH/ BAQDAgSwMB0GA1UdJQQWMBQGCCsGAQUFBwMCBggrBgEFBQcDBDCBsQYDVR0RBIGpMIGmgQ9s YW5nZEBpbi50dW0uZGWBFWRhbmllbC5sYW5nQGluLnR1bS5kZYEfbGFuZ2RAaW5mb3JtYXRp ay50dS1tdWVuY2hlbi5kZYElZGFuaWVsLmxhbmdAaW5mb3JtYXRpay50dS1tdWVuY2hlbi5k ZYEQbGFuZ2RAY3MudHVtLmVkdYEWZGFuaWVsLmxhbmdAY3MudHVtLmVkdYEKZGxAbGVvLm9y ZzAJBgNVHRIEAjAAMDsGA1UdHwQ0MDIwMKAuoCyGKmh0dHA6Ly9jYS5pbi50dW0uZGUvY3Js cy9nMi91c2VyY2FfY3JsLmNybDARBglghkgBhvhCAQEEBAMCBaAwga4GCWCGSAGG+EIBDQSB oBaBnURpZXNlcyBaZXJ0aWZpa2F0IHd1cmRlIGF1c2dlc3RlbGx0IGZ1ZXIgRGFuaWVsIExh bmcgdm9uIGRlciBSQkctQmVudXR6ZXItQ0EgKDIuR2VuZXJhdGlvbiksIEZha3VsdGFldCBm dWVyIEluZm9ybWF0aWsgZGVyIFRlY2huaXNjaGVuIFVuaXZlcnNpdGFldCBNdWVuY2hlbi4w NgYJYIZIAYb4QgEDBCkWJ2h0dHA6Ly9jYS5pbi50dW0uZGUvY2dpLWJpbi91c2VyY2EtcmV2 PzAyBglghkgBhvhCAQQEJRYjaHR0cDovL2NhLmluLnR1bS5kZS9jZ2ktYmluL2NhLXJldj8w LAYJYIZIAYb4QgEIBB8WHWh0dHA6Ly9jYS5pbi50dW0uZGUvcG9saWNpZXMvMEcGA1UdIARA MD4wPAYNKwYBBAGBmD5lgUgBATArMCkGCCsGAQUFBwIBFh1odHRwOi8vY2EuaW4udHVtLmRl L3BvbGljaWVzLzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOCAQEAaFvwlYSJNc32QohD3O0xlEprR1sauebF q3DrhCttWooCxyOQs6SCUnk2Smv9Rl1P7NFqoKhfTFwhC0Oa5rXgTFyOv7w8M8RyFIDahfHb PA2kxf8UHlsZcSuumPEEToi5dm0c2FObAAOT0CV0yKCp6RI+xSbMF6qQD23+j5PtlESTeIYp f/aL8b4gUHS0KKsEgqjpOoqbJzYBskQCLenolaFKevZuZRpmhrgGzUyakRKgGu7jR/88CYh6 YyUkc/Fxk/i+vhLQV/7mJEO0/mf6Dx+26kPgamKZieGqDJSfEvMgbLEdhkx8KIC7BmF1xt/w Wqln6jvlyyNhzks5ivf+tTCCBeIwggTKoAMCAQICAQQwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwaTELMAkG A1UEBhMCREUxETAPBgNVBAcTCE11ZW5jaGVuMQwwCgYDVQQKEwNUVU0xCzAJBgNVBAsTAklO MQ8wDQYDVQQDEwZSQkctQ0ExGzAZBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWDGNhQGluLnR1bS5kZTAeFw0wNDA0 MTQxMTM2MzRaFw0wOTA2MDEwMDAwMDBaMHAxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkRFMREwDwYDVQQHEwhNdWVu Y2hlbjEMMAoGA1UEChMDVFVNMQswCQYDVQQLEwJJTjEWMBQGA1UEAxMNUkJHLVNlcnZlci1D QTEbMBkGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYMY2FAaW4udHVtLmRlMIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8A MIIBCgKCAQEAoePWEn7xO39yf3DYb9gxjsS0uofT/t1QxfCFkqYDxU6C24ewtFEOMlR40Q4J 4HHBFOWc7rllw780sWuumYkzjdxswA37ZmZ171Zp99cZ9HLO1eWroaiewGiE69Yo30x1iePp 5/5MjbeQdyzfKVjppIgdH4Q7T7W6jV9xrerR955FoD7GKKj1B4azN1hmjkxyIcTTd3imk3yi 3IfLTUbNhPeedsNVRez7l+NRqt6vJC1u+Q3IBQ2PPRcgeVQJGkHPtEKcPtFrY4kV4YHmiBF/ Xl1co1OAddxYO3v+hns0ikxOFxMqEEw4nfeHCL7pVp11uXB2kc8NpEwzNZsq5ykmmQIDAQAB o4ICjDCCAogwDwYDVR0TAQH/BAUwAwEB/zAdBgNVHQ4EFgQU3PUENjj/EeOdOtKDmBMZDy3I H/8wgZMGA1UdIwSBizCBiIAUAr3bGy+wsVe/6m0mADKJ8jIZOvyhbaRrMGkxCzAJBgNVBAYT AkRFMREwDwYDVQQHEwhNdWVuY2hlbjEMMAoGA1UEChMDVFVNMQswCQYDVQQLEwJJTjEPMA0G A1UEAxMGUkJHLUNBMRswGQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFgxjYUBpbi50dW0uZGWCAQMwDgYDVR0PAQH/ BAQDAgEGMBMGA1UdJQQMMAoGCCsGAQUFBwMBMDcGA1UdHwQwMC4wLKAqoCiGJmh0dHA6Ly9j YS5pbi50dW0uZGUvY3Jscy9nMi9jYV9jcmwuY3JsMBEGCWCGSAGG+EIBAQQEAwICBDCBkwYJ YIZIAYb4QgENBIGFFoGCWmVydGlmaWthdCBmdWVyIFJCRy1TZXJ2ZXItQ0EgYXVzZ2VzdGVs bHQgdm9uIFJCRy1DQSAyLkdlbmVyYXRpb24sIEZha3VsdGFldCBmdWVyIEluZm9ybWF0aWsg ZGVyIFRlY2huaXNjaGVuIFVuaXZlcnNpdGFldCBNdWVuY2hlbjAyBglghkgBhvhCAQQEJRYj aHR0cDovL2NhLmluLnR1bS5kZS9jZ2ktYmluL2NhLXJldj8wPAYJYIZIAYb4QgEIBC8WLWh0 dHA6Ly9jYS5pbi50dW0uZGUvcG9saWNpZXMvc2VydmVyY2Fwb2wuaHRtbDBHBgNVHSAEQDA+ MDwGDSsGAQQBgZg+ZYFIAQEwKzApBggrBgEFBQcCARYdaHR0cDovL2NhLmluLnR1bS5kZS9w b2xpY2llcy8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADggEBAJdbHM31nJEU9hLrlFtsa653xed5gSFUwX3D hlUWRFDB+EknV0g+IeVYykNzpw8ILruy59S5O101ZH47br2rx9m3EUloAIyVRDFFX+aFuJ+i PDyo98aZDSdeuwAwSO4tv/rOudIZST5XFvHez7aiIoUHx07NZhcr3yFzOqTPtLkw67MDizY0 +nHvMH26Ch0nSQUdor+y0rPfYMRpOomrjV42U23VRtxnRo+KqUdvgg1WdUST9sMqBXQ1esfn N5LIt3xdahgCNz5F/2ai0LW8E2E/WWJNZfaKhC062T/FZzH6/qe+pmVlDgCWDPXci0D5HR4c lxUbEkbQ4olo0cdje3gwggX6MIIE4qADAgECAgEFMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMGkxCzAJBgNV BAYTAkRFMREwDwYDVQQHEwhNdWVuY2hlbjEMMAoGA1UEChMDVFVNMQswCQYDVQQLEwJJTjEP MA0GA1UEAxMGUkJHLUNBMRswGQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFgxjYUBpbi50dW0uZGUwHhcNMDQwNDE0 MTEzODIxWhcNMDkwNjAxMDAwMDAwWjByMQswCQYDVQQGEwJERTERMA8GA1UEBxMITXVlbmNo ZW4xDDAKBgNVBAoTA1RVTTELMAkGA1UECxMCSU4xGDAWBgNVBAMTD1JCRy1CZW51dHplci1D QTEbMBkGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYMY2FAaW4udHVtLmRlMIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8A MIIBCgKCAQEAuUIL+0omWgx+ZdeQWWuiMSkOPHit3bZKDTMwW1uO1046KvcrBfSURAV/0Afx 4DiQtkFptNt18wMvJrJPf85TXxGXiOR1MUpx4GNQ0FtNg5AzIRSVQpEzOo6cBe3hU3owXnZZ 22d36XHXnKoz/zZMePSEggc2oMuj+OoChLROG/psUS58tT20ohl1ltfqTeB/9ldGaJomANv4 Q6HgvvMRB8VK6qGR+FADAEqpZJ+JewAMJaDpDatkLhZQ44ygGPErDIWbKnqZvPfiBTga65kB E3N/2Mt+x2q1duyEfS49P+Ss2Vf0v8xnvdmsUF+0MdgBQ2dKTMbCQwsbGDDUVbW7OwIDAQAB o4ICojCCAp4wDwYDVR0TAQH/BAUwAwEB/zAdBgNVHQ4EFgQUNiQ562ZHp7c9HjvDspUMZvpF EfswgZMGA1UdIwSBizCBiIAUAr3bGy+wsVe/6m0mADKJ8jIZOvyhbaRrMGkxCzAJBgNVBAYT AkRFMREwDwYDVQQHEwhNdWVuY2hlbjEMMAoGA1UEChMDVFVNMQswCQYDVQQLEwJJTjEPMA0G A1UEAxMGUkJHLUNBMRswGQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFgxjYUBpbi50dW0uZGWCAQMwDgYDVR0PAQH/ BAQDAgEGMB0GA1UdJQQWMBQGCCsGAQUFBwMCBggrBgEFBQcDBDA3BgNVHR8EMDAuMCygKqAo hiZodHRwOi8vY2EuaW4udHVtLmRlL2NybHMvZzIvY2FfY3JsLmNybDAJBgNVHRIEAjAAMBEG CWCGSAGG+EIBAQQEAwIBBjCBlgYJYIZIAYb4QgENBIGIFoGFWmVydGlmaWthdCBmdWVyIFJC Ry1CZW51dHplci1DQSwgYXVzZ2VzdGVsbHQgdm9uIFJCRy1DQSAyLkdlbmVyYXRpb24sIEZh a3VsdGFldCBmdWVyIEluZm9ybWF0aWsgZGVyIFRlY2huaXNjaGVuIFVuaXZlcnNpdGFldCBN dWVuY2hlbjAyBglghkgBhvhCAQQEJRYjaHR0cDovL2NhLmluLnR1bS5kZS9jZ2ktYmluL2Nh LXJldj8wOgYJYIZIAYb4QgEIBC0WK2h0dHA6Ly9jYS5pbi50dW0uZGUvcG9saWNpZXMvdXNl cmNhcG9sLmh0bWwwRwYDVR0gBEAwPjA8Bg0rBgEEAYGYPmWBSAEBMCswKQYIKwYBBQUHAgEW HWh0dHA6Ly9jYS5pbi50dW0uZGUvcG9saWNpZXMvMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAA4IBAQB0Fciq aObDs6d/ZW5OXQi6AfFy7SnagnAP3uqMAamMyTCtUn8/3AeGb5veesmtXUTrOL6v5q5VMuwa C6rvxLVpevnS6YrvhjijbqtuaJU/Rsw+zgAvGOj3VrolfC4pxNBPoKATBVWDOufrO3w9oFHY OaS3URFEURbhdQGCET0letBus3B8fCl0TOvF7ftE47+C8c0nYDzukMH2DNTlJ1Z33NA5CFyC QBjqdGFmRJezFyquWDP+ub/Aw/TeiY1vr/wsF+mcfNjFYvY6Q8tIWoeg5ED7Ex20T9PFk447 gWpEN6oyTUXd95SyMzWZ6RzUX/ox/mlcYfCqoUDiReZr/6+EMYICUzCCAk8CAQEweDByMQsw CQYDVQQGEwJERTERMA8GA1UEBxMITXVlbmNoZW4xDDAKBgNVBAoTA1RVTTELMAkGA1UECxMC SU4xGDAWBgNVBAMTD1JCRy1CZW51dHplci1DQTEbMBkGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYMY2FAaW4udHVt LmRlAgIj0zAJBgUrDgMCGgUAoIGxMBgGCSqGSIb3DQEJAzELBgkqhkiG9w0BBwEwHAYJKoZI hvcNAQkFMQ8XDTA0MDYyOTA5MDc0MlowIwYJKoZIhvcNAQkEMRYEFGOBt0HC5tOVEZfRZSte 1wTNOWt2MFIGCSqGSIb3DQEJDzFFMEMwCgYIKoZIhvcNAwcwDgYIKoZIhvcNAwICAgCAMA0G CCqGSIb3DQMCAgFAMAcGBSsOAwIHMA0GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgEoMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUABIIB ALLfVbtF6PJBZwEsMWs6nwVM4CVoUSc0qsOUpp13/BMiHV61AY9F5t94+lyoZeMOY93NNduX Jd1t0oUx8zF1I5OHRty15Ewb9aC0ENCuB0XOnRBtBAIJrIpl7Tb5CPg1SqU68ovMkANpt/zX qHE8ki0Ut01ij2QWYSZFQZEdaIh4mAq+fnCv8BHwLuqdYeuH/K9bf+eQYoGznzkY/9FzZhIS sfbzN609N0+u2hqQVs/H7vavR3HTWz8E8zNBH0+GCT4yUMIM0jJYKHLBQVHhS3gJlloHenkX 2/Tp3DTVS4ESROPvGkGPfP6dI9BCze6qgWsfzhWLZZEt/quY8o3F6ck= --RpqchZ26BWispMcB--