From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Jan 1 10:31: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from Genesis.Denninger.Net (209-176-244-82.inil.com [209.176.244.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D08150BC for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 10:30:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from karl@Genesis.Denninger.Net) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Genesis.Denninger.Net (8.9.3/8.8.2) id MAA43736; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 12:30:55 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <20000101123054.A37550@Denninger.Net> Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 12:30:54 -0600 From: Karl Denninger To: Steve Price Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/15822: Update port misc/HomeDaemon to V0.99 References: <20000101113337.A89903@Denninger.Net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Steve Price on Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 12:19:34PM -0600 Organization: Karl's Sushi and Packet Smashers X-Die-Spammers: Spammers cheerfully broiled for supper and served with ketchup! Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 12:19:34PM -0600, Steve Price wrote: > On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Karl Denninger wrote: > > # Correct. My first submission got a reject and nasty comment back from > # one of your other committers that I violated the hier(7) rules - when I > # explained why I had done so, I got stony silence in reply. > > I can't speak for anyone but myself. I was being courteous and you > took to shouting at me. So am to assume that all [CK]arls of the > world will be this way? I didn't take the other person's comments > as you did. They were constructive comments and you chose to take > them the wrong way IMHO. Well, I apologize for considering you and Will to be both speaking somewhat-in-concert. > [snip] > > # So today I submitted a port with those PLIST entries DELETED (intentionally) > # which ALSO violates the rules in the handbook, but I'll be damned if blind > # complience with "the rules" supersedes the principle of least astonishment > # (and the 4-letter words that will eminate from someone who does not have a > # backup after they spend all weekend programming an event list only to lose > # it due to this!) > > If the port installs files then those files will show up in the PLIST > otherwise the package that is created will be worthless as they won't > be there. My suggestion if you don't want to lose these config files > is to install the ones you have as '.sample's with instructions that for > this software to do anything useful you must copy and tweak to suit. > There are quite a number of ports that do this and it works quite well > for them. The package is worthless without hand configuration in any event (and those files are hand-configuration files). I'll take a look at the strategy on the ".sample" stuff, but inhernetly don't like it. There's a build-define that has to be set too, which may force me back to "NO_PACKAGE" anyway, in which case none of this really matters. > # Any idea on a timeline when the "now original" commit can/will be done? > > Nope. With a volunteer project and the fact that there are currently > 2116 other open PRs (269 of which are for ports), it will happen when > someone takes the time to do it. > > Since the holidays are here for most of us it has a good chance of > happening soon, but no promises. I can tell you that in the last > week we've been able to resolve a sizeable number of PRs as evidenced > here. > > http://www.freebsd.org/~steve/gnatstats.html > > -steve Understood. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@denninger.net) Web: http://childrens-justice.org Isn't it time we started putting KIDS first? See the above URL for a plan to do exactly that! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message