From owner-freebsd-java@freebsd.org Fri Jun 28 23:19:04 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670FF15CEB54 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 23:19:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCCFA8D079 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 23:19:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 976FE15CEB53; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 23:19:03 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: java@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846B615CEB52 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 23:19:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org (mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E9998D076 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 23:19:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::16:76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CEA4191FA for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 23:19:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.118]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x5SNJ2Lg080261 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 23:19:02 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x5SNJ2Dn080260 for java@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 23:19:02 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: java@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 237913] devel/apache-ant - upgrade, build from source Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 23:19:02 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Ports & Packages X-Bugzilla-Component: Individual Port(s) X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: patch X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: glewis@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: java@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: maintainer-feedback? X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 23:19:04 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D237913 --- Comment #11 from Greg Lewis --- Mikhail, my biggest concern with what you're proposing is that this is how = the Java ports used to be constructed at one point, and it didn't work out well= at all. I was once a believer in them building from source too, but the practicality is that many of the Java packages you might want to have as po= rts use Maven as the build system, which allows them to specify exact versions = of other packages to depend on, which are sourced from a network server during= the build. This doesn't work for the ports system and messing around with patc= hes for all of that build infrastructure and managing all those dependencies somehow is a massive amount of work. Not to mention the other problems suc= h as projects ignoring problem reports from FreeBSD users since we aren't using = the official releases from them. The first step in shifting over to building from source is not to insist on changing ports back to building from source. Rather the first step is to propose practical solutions for the problems that lead us away from that previously. To do otherwise is just starting down a path that leads to failure. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=