From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Apr 20 06:44:44 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF69FD472B0 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2017 06:44:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eekee57@fastmail.fm) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84CC3CFB for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2017 06:44:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eekee57@fastmail.fm) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 231A72093F for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2017 02:44:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web6 ([10.202.2.216]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 20 Apr 2017 02:44:43 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=/oQRpbbI+tqKlEyiOQn4LYfsIZ08K EddbeXRWZ+pDmk=; b=LP+QMbTsM+lTJjNEJH/AIMAh0a3ekR0SkcBD2WMHnHY6Y Pe+yP/1y8NRQbPP5MjQxdlN+sUHqLQav1nRc+xftFqDgqZW80BD7MNQpSvsgC2VI 1Ia7bQfcz7S+/LYRcUIig7MgZoFaXlnvSdxrHVdUjEgIZX7R3VeQvMmx9e+XicNP tpjbgZ7R6ExdZOQMOCx02xBSgakeY6ODIo0l/8ueiGgyzIlUolCP3e6QESaFHDQw iukal8MCtgB5HCS7Cnq1AgdMa6hqG9wvd23HKwhwvo1tYqzk7sZuVB0XGzQtmNa3 RIEsNpzAeYPhqPNVDEmMe2K174pynHgO4U+TXuNHA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=/oQRpb bI+tqKlEyiOQn4LYfsIZ08KEddbeXRWZ+pDmk=; b=QSvC+BHxUEbh2X8So1MpyA A80JPmRNTz4tSD5oUl0uMEzBNRdqYjAUiAzaceIETNBG21XUoBaYmUMI+KXNK2l4 M+4ueST/xTYd2o/LgXaj9U/LL3/8udDtTUB0pe4JchFSrucXBCYyfbvH4fUfmIkU pH2ZLwcWYd5JbQ8f4yuvdBhgR3OOCI6ktd6SwVnAVnmYwgzh8SvG1333ddgB0m/d odq8kZj444Yfrj4mZmC9aNxJgxBOjbb1lccCED6FrITnRl5lEvLhbxkpQ8r0mzLi OhIXCq847blY7AwSkZLfWMBytpiEBreW0gT70x3JAoShnP1M90/UN1ahSWz4yz2g == X-ME-Sender: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id C352A48006; Thu, 20 Apr 2017 02:44:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1492670682.1592874.950196360.7EF5A9A1@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Ethan Grammatikidis To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-ca85a2ec References: <58F61A8D.1030309@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <58F61A8D.1030309@a1poweruser.com> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 07:44:42 +0100 Subject: Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 06:44:44 -0000 On Tue, Apr 18, 2017, at 02:54 PM, qjail1 wrote: > I maintain a port and I have users complaining that the pkg system takes > many months before the updated version of my port shows up in the pkg > system. > > My response is I tell them to change a line in their > /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf file > from url: "pkg+http://pkg.Freebsd.org/${ABI}/quarterly", > to url: "pkg+http://pkg.Freebsd.org/${ABI}/latest", > > The old pkg system never had this quarterly update cycle and I see no > reason to have it now when its so easy to over ride the default. > > Why not just change the default to "latest" and save on all the overhead > of the quarterly cycle? I have to say that if pkg abandoned the cautious update cycle, I'd abandon FreeBSD. I've really had enough of constant upgrades. The one thing I have which needs constant upgrades is a Flash video downloader. I keep that in ~/bin and use its built-in upgrade mechanism when required, which is simple. I don't need to get it via some root-only mechanism. It doesn't have a man page of course, but --help|less is easy enough.