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Date:      Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:58:48 +0200 (SAT)
From:      John Hay <jhay@mikom.csir.co.za>
To:        wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman)
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: IPv6 in -current
Message-ID:  <199810291858.UAA26651@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za>
In-Reply-To: <199810291537.KAA00450@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> from Garrett Wollman at "Oct 29, 98 10:37:35 am"

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> 
> > we can get a version of IPv6 standard in FreeBSD. I have been looking at
> > (and using) the KAME stuff the last few weeks and am quite impressed
> > with it. One of the advantages (for me) about the KAME stack is that we
> > also get their IPSEC stuff, while with INRIA being in France, it makes
> > things a little more complicated.
> 
> Don't forget there's also the group of people who worked on the NRL
> stack....

I didn't. I explicitly left them about because of two reasons. Because
I'm not in the USA and I'm not a USA citizen, I can't get hold of it.
Then also according to their web site they only cater for BSDI, NetBSD
and Linux, with a promise that they will support FreeBSD in their next
release.

But I don't really mind which one we are using. Any one that is part
of FreeBSD will make my life easier. Most of the stacks available
only support a specific release, so if you are running stable or
current you have to constantly merge. (Well actually current is out
of the question at the moment because none of them support 3.0 let
alone current and that is actually where it would like it, because
most of our test boxes run current.)

> The other question that people have to consider whenever IPv6 comes
> up: with whom are you going to communicate?  Right now, there is no
> globally-routed IPv6 infrastructure, and there is unlikely to be any,
> any time soon (IOS 12, anyone?).  I am prefectly happy with the state
> of the world where we can advance our technological goals in the
> context of IPv4, and let other parties provide an IPv6 implementation.

While it is not native, the 6bone is up and running and people are using
it to test compatability of the different stacks and other things. Our
side of the 6bone tunnel is a FreeBSD box running the KAME stack and the
other side is a Cisco somewhere in the USA.

I do agree that IPv4 will be the main protocol for while, the other side
is that IPv6 is coming and we shouldn't wait too long to incorporate it.
By having a standard stack we can unite the FreeBSD IPv6 users and get
it better tested than currently where we are split up between the
different stacks.

John
-- 
John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za

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