From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 30 01:17:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C18106564A for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 01:17:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D058FC12 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 01:17:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d11so1248313and.13 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:17:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=IGoCxSIIhOAYWG9z2+YFARZrMbnuxUtshN1OiiRj8rg=; b=Edt1f37TTtV3lODNWgLyWRddUehhbYUd+Ok+6h9bek1C8mmbx2zBNds9AYqQYaxBut B0g32bxP32LY51W2QTyTAibFyz0eVvCO7tcIb81XHJWUtZXDQr0xE0J/5zEjEQ7tmf75 /Ct5aK5IpCVYOeh//ThzmA7V75oLowcoF38LI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=wbhigtdUa/ErRG89IULbBNQ/4H3JiCbOUlKHL28Pa3ea7KNqog+R5uQSEHmbOEWl4h P/HZBn3vbV5oLkhfnOR/3jgxaMVvW3GPw34jgTMfKC7Hn4WbMqvdN1RKIDwn6qKoFFVH sQ2jiJ1CUB0L7DdFpvBf9NjfM0n8/KPrPgGGA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49CFEF9C.7000003@telenix.org> References: <1238352818.73736.161.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <49CFEF9C.7000003@telenix.org> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:16:52 -0400 Received: by 10.100.172.16 with SMTP id u16mr3275045ane.105.1238375828590; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <28283d910903291816r2b2f2503h5241f987ef6bcebd@mail.gmail.com> From: matt donovan To: Chuck Robey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD GNOME Users , Joe Marcus Clarke Subject: Re: State of the FreeBSD GNOME Project X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 01:17:09 -0000 On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Chuck Robey wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > As some of you may have already figured out, the news is not good. The > > number of active team members has dwindled due to various Real Life time > > constraints. Even my own time is becoming strained due to obligations > > at work. We find ourselves facing a rise in difficulty when it comes to > > porting GNOME. Hal is being replaced in part by DeviceKit which is > > currently very Linux-specific. Hal itself needs some updates. The > > system tools don't really work on FreeBSD. We could use a > > NetworkManager port (may happen in this SoC go around). > > > > We're also spread pretty thin when it comes to expertise in the number > > of ports we maintain. While we require a working Gecko backend, none of > > us have the desire or drive to maintain the various ports. We > > desperately need help. We need people to step up, and start working on > > ports and helping with development branch porting. But more > > importantly, we need people to take the reins on "hard" projects like > > those listed above. If GNOME is to survive on FreeBSD, we need new > > blood. > > > > So here's the short list. What do you want to do? > > > > * Help port GNOME 2.27 and its external dependencies (when GNOME 2.27 > > development starts) > > > > * Port and maintain DeviceKit and DeviceKit-power > > > > * Fix and maintain sysutils/system-tools-backends > > > > * Add kern.geom.confxml support to hal to fix the > > no-space-in-volume-label problem > > > > * Assume maintainership of Gecko ports > > > > * Make libxul (aka xulrunner-1.9) work for building ports like epiphany > > and yelp > > > > Joe > > 2 items affect me, in contributing to ports: > > (1) there seems to be no list of ports to do, and no signup list for those > ports. This is 2 things, the list, and being able to reserve the work. If > it > DOES exist, could someone point me at it? > > (2) I have longstanding philosophical problems with the direction of ports, > which (while it stops me from wanting to write any more ports) it wouldn't > stop > me from making a set of diffs that would make the building of a port a lot > more > painless. Would this be of help? I could supply the non-ports part (any > diffs > I needed to make) if someone else would care to do the ports Makefile > parts. I > just don't want to actually code up FreeBSD ports again, but I think that > both > the KDE and Gnome work you guys do is very impressive. > > Understand, I don't want to bend anyone's ear about my disagreements with > Ports > (I was able to do that to my complete satisfaction some years ago, since > everyone was so polite and reasonable, to let me get my opinions across > then, I > feel bound never to raise the subject again.) I just needed to make clear > the > reason why I won't make ports anymore, so I could maybe get a chance to > help you > folks without violating my own rules. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iEYEARECAAYFAknP75wACgkQz62J6PPcoOmhKgCfSbvroYxcx+XcIest5ExWA5q5 > 0lcAoJ4vBXj7g7232eENcfpdUqg13lBF > =NRor > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-gnome > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-gnome-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Well since Firefox3 is not a gecko port really. At least it does not run off of a gecko engine really I could update the firefox-devel ports or even firefox3 port but seems to me the firefox3 as a maintainer from what I have seen just that the firefox-devel port needs a maintainer and sicne I use firefox-devel already I could take that over if someone wishes.