From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 25 18:20:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0465B16A508; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:20:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.194.102.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DC143D49; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:20:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6CECC513A7; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:20:33 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Kirill Ponomarew Message-ID: <20050425182033.GC40370@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050425010242.GA44110@xor.obsecurity.org> <6.2.1.2.0.20050424210422.03d22990@64.7.153.2> <20050425014453.GA59981@xor.obsecurity.org> <426C6B1D.3040704@elischer.org> <20050425061459.GA33247@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050425062106.GB91852@voodoo.oberon.net> <426CF3DE.4000409@samsco.org> <20050425160146.4795fe1b.flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> <426CF91A.8060907@samsco.org> <20050425144259.GL91852@voodoo.oberon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="m51xatjYGsM+13rf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050425144259.GL91852@voodoo.oberon.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: current@freebsd.org cc: mike@sentex.net cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: julian@elischer.org cc: kris@obsecurity.org Subject: Re: GCC 4.0 [Re: FreeBSD 6 is coming too fast] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:20:38 -0000 --m51xatjYGsM+13rf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 04:43:00PM +0200, Kirill Ponomarew wrote: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 08:05:14AM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > > Well, I'd caution against jumping into GCC 4.0 just because of the > > claims of 25% speed improvement. That's about the single worst reason > > to do it. But if you're interested in moving the technology forward, > > I'd happily encourage you. The changed language constructs are the big > > problem (extern struct foo bar[]; is no longer valid) since you not only > > need to sweep the FreeBSD tree for them, you also need to sweep the > > ports tree. I have mixed feeling on the value of GCC making sloppy > > language extentions available for years and then suddenly revoking them, > > and I know others that have been affected by 4.0 aren't terribly happy > > either. >=20 > Well. if we're going to import it, it should be tested on pointyhat > first. IIRC Kris already run tests for some pre 4.0 versions. No, only for 3.4.4, which is going to be imported after I finish testing the latest patchset from kan. Kris --m51xatjYGsM+13rf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCbTTwWry0BWjoQKURAp9pAKDWIBVfdh86XAJiL+4L3qwYCgIEfACgw64m qCGC8h+BixdKC9V23rdBqNk= =Qz4K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --m51xatjYGsM+13rf--