From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Aug 17 21:56:51 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FBE53BD0D2 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 21:56:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@jetcafe.org) Received: from fedex2.jetcafe.org (fedex2.jetcafe.org [205.147.26.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "fedex2.jetcafe.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BVnv564Pgz4KZk for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 21:56:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@jetcafe.org) X-Envelope-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from bigus.dream-tech.com (bigus.jetcafe.org [205.147.26.7]) by fedex2.jetcafe.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 07HLudJe083828 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Aug 2020 14:56:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@jetcafe.org) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 14:56:38 -0700 From: Dave Hayes To: Eugene Grosbein Cc: Farhan Khan , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recognizing Matrix as an official channel Message-ID: <20200817145638.64be51a1@bigus.dream-tech.com> In-Reply-To: References: <0220573d-7844-4c0f-9cff-56c2a6f91500@www.fastmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1 ( out of 5.1) ALL_TRUSTED,SHORTCIRCUIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin version 3.4.4-jetcafeglobal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.83 ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1597701411; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=qunk52LYzlDIoSARSG4JTCiAyV/2pmeg66LneO+U0pQ=; b=MM2zJckl/X3jWUUKKjWRzzhG/lYGBqwz6UXXyNn6upp1iVpj7PJm7H6xhgsYPFGqOgnbcJ /+J3ToOtEzf3RXZK/3UbGUjQyyfvSoJ6CQqaMN8WE7qb6YE03MOFZ8vYHT83DwYxxdHxdA frM9xSfvrI5cqTS+9FCrk4QDbQ0Rf09sG0FNvy6gkTDd4ut7dIebXapMne+ydpyssNF5rb clTcEeggzlKYibW6PRPWPZ+OH99xWgjs24AOt7JD7OOan52KAFeQ9kTjRdgGBA78IGykiK EIj3DSrtN73Dl+ixDjql4tn2uvBgls2eqVwGvQ9WV9XK/z22BXv+I/bDE7RCbg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1597701411; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Cj0BszH9pmIzfVXe/abkSZxMGwGp/FypV8KM8PLkgl52qDgKUOwG5nFmtMrKlLtHsxF2Rm 49nvX8Zk/15aTWG8iAAiIMTidx09ZXT+Neht5hq0H9NTkhi1/XBrRwY/lT9GltJUzSIZym YDja7Iu9vr25T29EF4Ol88p69Jx1xn/unFnu9Xiw7ArZbvr5yVcO6RUP6Hf39IOqN58r0X NQrUpmy+x5myWUULy8+nvZ0nyuaMpS3iTjTo7yz0a3AeQwUs6roU3wP8O4dmaBDlox19Z3 0HctMPHQiztjBl5XTLV60WQLPgYJnFipyOGk/5ovwktGbylC4woXHj17JVrpng== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dave@jetcafe.org designates 205.147.26.23 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dave@jetcafe.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BVnv564Pgz4KZk X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dave@jetcafe.org designates 205.147.26.23 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dave@jetcafe.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.90 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.03)[-1.029]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ARC_SIGNED(0.00)[i=1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[jetcafe.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.42)[0.425]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.993]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7397, ipnet:205.147.0.0/18, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 21:56:51 -0000 On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 03:20:45 +0700 Eugene Grosbein wrote: > What is Matrix's level of support for FreeBSD? > Is there native FreeBSD server? Yes. See net-im/py-matrix-synapse, which is well supported. > Is there native FreeBSD client? Matrix is really a protocol, not an application. Thus this question is hard to answer. You can see https://matrix.org/ for details, but the best current client for this protocol is Element. Element runs in the popular browsers, has an Android and iOS client, and can likely be made into a stand alone application assuming devel/electron* works on FreeBSD. However, all you need is www/chromium or www/firefox to actually run a client. So technically, FreeBSD is also well supported but a native client is through electron. It's worth noting that Matrix is federated. Thus it is quite possible for FreeBSD to run it's own matrix server if it decided to. -- Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org >>>> *The opinions expressed above are entirely my own* <<<< Exaggeration is a standard peculiarity of man. To deprecate is often a form of exaggeration which people do not notice because it appears to be its opposite.