From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 10:33:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E11106566C for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:33:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tevans.uk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C673A8FC14 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:32:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcmm1 with SMTP id m1so2126675vcm.13 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:32:59 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of tevans.uk@googlemail.com designates 10.220.209.200 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.220.209.200; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of tevans.uk@googlemail.com designates 10.220.209.200 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=tevans.uk@googlemail.com; dkim=pass header.i=tevans.uk@googlemail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.220.209.200]) by 10.220.209.200 with SMTP id gh8mr965850vcb.55.1330079579092 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:32:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=uUFP7I4QnKV2PD4vZ7nyDugRINg3MSdxxy4qIE6alJU=; b=K9cd3w08c7rHC+9u5TvqfBPI2gVGw6FgtMDepKYodRLKFShLn1VE84L6k3ssNO6ngM +Sh2SEaUfe7+17j9GwWkp1A8E1SHMFDCNRYaBXd/7nA2F0QCYwXqi+pvwERuitR0VMfi qB8SAK/TBcFoS0nZbQ8Kx9VxDatA8YgFWRqKc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.209.200 with SMTP id gh8mr739557vcb.55.1330079578884; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:32:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.91.210 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:32:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F46ADC8.2080408@brockmann-consult.de> References: <4F46847D.4010908@my.gd> <4F46ADC8.2080408@brockmann-consult.de> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:32:58 +0000 Message-ID: From: Tom Evans To: Peter Maloney Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD9 and the sheer number of problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 10:33:00 -0000 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Peter Maloney wrote: > I suggest these concepts should be tested: > > Perhaps the testers tested beta1 and beta2, but there were so many > changes after beta2, that bugs appeared in release that did not exist in > beta2. Test this by reproducing things reported in release also in beta1 > or 2. > > Perhaps the people who know the rule about running .0 releases (such as > myself) never bothered to test beta1, beta2, or even release .0 (true in > my case). If so, then this rule is a very bad one. Test this with a poll. > At $JOB, we never install a N.0 release either, but only because the .0 release has such a brief life. The N.1 and N.3 releases have extended lifetimes, and so we tend to only use those versions. Cheers Tom