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Date:      Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:18:48 -0400
From:      Forrest Aldrich <forrie@forrie.com>
To:        <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>, <freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Cyrus SASL
Message-ID:  <4.2.1.19991029151457.00a6dc60@216.67.12.69>
In-Reply-To: <002501bf223f$cedae800$8012c2cf@ws1>

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Well, I glad I'm not alone in this view.

The documentation sucks, very badly.   It would be nice to see a couple
of HOWTO's and such.

The biggest reason why I avoided Cyrus-<anything> in the past was partly
due to the complexity, and uncertainty generated by trying to make sense of it.

I agree the SASL and 1.6 stuff is quirky.   It probably needs a bit of time 
before
it will become sane enough for production use.   Everyone I've exchanged mail
with has advised me to stick with the latest 1.5.x revision.

Further, prior to posting to the info-cyrus list, I read through the 
documentation
on their web page... only to get flamed (slightly), and realizing the info 
is sorely
outdated.  *shrug*

Maybe it's time for another group to take over Cyrus :)  *chortle*
It does have lots of potential.


_F

At 12:00 PM 10/29/99 -0700, Erik Stainsby wrote:
>Cyrus IMAP has moved on from the 1.5.19 that is in the ports collection.
>Current Syrus (last week) was 1.6.   The 1.6 series requires Cyrus SASL
>(Simple Authentication and Security Layer).  This seems to me from my
>limitted experience with it (mostly frustrating) to be a re-invention of the
>PAM architecture:  a generalized middleware for configurable authentication.
>
>I was attempting to establish Cyrus imap because it uses a directory-mailbox
>architecture with message-per-file rather than mbox.  I've had too many mbox
>corruptions recently.  I had no particular success installing the Cyrus
>IMAP/SASL couple.  The documentation I'm afraid is attrocious from an
>implementation/administration standpoint.
>Another wonderful looking in-house application that is publicshed without
>translating the experience needed to operate it  into useful doc for
>newcomers to the app. <sigh>
>
>As a final plea if anyone has found admin level instruction (as opposed to
>programmer's) on how to use the server/setup accounts/maintain the
>environment  I would very much appreciate a note of direction.
>
>Cheers,
>     Erik
>     stainsby@telus.net
>========================================
>   There was no year zero.
>    The next millenium begins January 1, 2001.
>========================================
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jaime Kikpole <jaime@malkav.snowmoon.com>
>To: Forrest Aldrich <forrie@forrie.com>
>Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>;
>freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG <freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG>
>Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 4:58 AM
>Subject: Re: Cyrus SASL
>
>
> >On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Forrest Aldrich wrote:
> >> Anyone have luck compiling the latest Cyrus SASL on FreeBSD-3.3+ ?
> >>
> >> Is someone working on an official port.   Sendmail 8.10.x supports it.
> >
> > Is this a varient of the Cyrus IMAP server?  Last I checked, the
> >Cyrus IMAP4/POP3 server was still in the ports.
> >
> > Jaime
> >
> >
> >
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