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Date:      Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:27:32 +0200 (EET)
From:      Evren Yurtesen <yurtesen@turkey.ispro.net.tr>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>
Cc:        stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: When to transition to 3.0-STABLE..  NOT NOW!
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.990128122136.2426B-100000@turkey.ispro.net.tr>
In-Reply-To: <82789.917504214@zippy.cdrom.com>

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hello,
I am using 3.0-RELEASE and I was wanting to upgrade to 3.0-STABLE
because 3.0-RELEASE gives error messages about calcru blah blah..
and I could not find the option about calcru that is in FAQ 
so I should upgrade to 3.0-STABLE now! because my processes are dying
randomly (when I saw RELEASE at 3.0 I thought it would be stable though
now I see that even when it says STABLE it is not stable ? cool )

is there a possibility that I just rebuild kernel with new sources ?
and I do not upgrade all other binaries? would it work ?

how else may I overcome this calcru stuff ?
Evren

On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> If you're running 3.0-RELEASE or 2.2.x-SOMETHING and you're thinking
> of upgrading to 3.0-STABLE at this time, I thought I would just send a
> quick heads-up which says simply: "Don't!"
> 
> Please wait until at least mid-February, when the release engineering
> and general tree repair work for 3.1-RELEASE has been mostly completed
> and all the sharpest edges have been filed off.  This work has to
> happen anyway for 3.1 and it will make the transition process MUCH
> easier, so please...  Wait!  Don't jump in now just because we
> recently branched and you see a new -stable, wait until the early
> bleeders have finished finding the sharp edges in the upgrade process
> and we've had a chance to child-safe the whole thing a bit.
> 
> Folks who've been tracking 3.0 all along and went to ELF everything
> months or weeks ago are fine and should keep right on tracking
> 3.0-stable, it's just that for the rather NEW situation where we have
> people switching binary formats as they jump -stable tracks, we're not
> quite prepared yet.  This is a very different upgrade than previous
> ones and we need time to make the "upgrade" target actually work in a
> reasonable number of cases.  What works great for 3.0-RELEASE might
> not at all for 2.2-stable and vice-versa, so it's not as easy as it
> looks.
> 
> By mid-February, those running 2.2-S will be more encouraged to take
> the plunge since they'll have both a working source upgrade target AND
> a working SNAPshot or two to do binary upgrades with.  We haven't even
> had the SNAPshots happening reliably since we branched and anyone who
> jumps in right now and doesn't also have the time to necessarily
> wrestle with a very green process simply does so at their own peril.
> 
> You have been warned!
> 
> - Jordan
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